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  1. #21
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    Zairava's Avatar
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    Grimahed Darkovin
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_User View Post
    The aim of using invul is to save Your CD as well as Healer CD.
    Yes, that's why you would use Wraithform while at high hp and not low hp, but given that people make mistakes, using a tbn at the end of it's duration wouldnt necessarily be 'not saving' it, you would still be using it for its main purpose. Though if we are going to be able to recover that mistake on our own, yeah we would need sustain improvements, which DRK needs already anyway. not even something powerful, hell just unlinking Carve and Spit and Abyssal Drain and making AD cost 3k mana would fix the issue, we never want to use AD for single target anyway
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    The Tank
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    Dark Knight Lv 62
    See? In the end it will became HG unless you make a mistake. The question is how many time do you expect to make a mistake?
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    You can pretty much give up on them giving DRK anything even approaching the effectness of HG. As great as that would be, the reality of the situation is that SE has already said at least once they regret the fact Hallowed Ground exists in the first place. It's so powerful that it actually has to be a major consideration when designing encounters.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 02-13-2022 at 11:48 PM.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    You can pretty much give up on them giving DRK anything like HG. As great as that would be, the reality of the situation is that SE has already said at least once they egret the fact Hallowed Ground exists in the first place. It's so powerful that it actually has to be a major consideration when designing encounters.
    I remember as much, but it makes me wonder why not for Holmgang then? I don't see how they find Hallowed Ground to be so otherwordly when Warrior, the king of sustain, can use holmgang almost twice as often.
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    Gungnir
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    And now we have a new champ aka Holmgang which overshadow HG because how easy it is to burst heal back. Moral of the story seem to be don't take it seriously.
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    Last edited by The_User; 02-13-2022 at 11:55 PM.

  6. #26
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    Cassius Rex
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    Holmgang doesn't appear to overshadow much of anything in SE's eyes given that they're still using Hallowed Ground as the measuring stick for encounters.
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  7. #27
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    Hence, don't take it seriously
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  8. #28
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Possible Idea:

    If you activate Walking Dead, and your Simulacrum (Living Shadow) is out, it will kill the living shadow instead of you.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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  9. #29
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by The_User View Post
    If you freeze your HP when it nearly full then it is basically a Hallowed Ground.

    The weakness of the heal from damage taken style can be fix by have LD instantly reduce your hp to 1 and let you heal from damage taken immediately but the result is still similar to Hallowed Ground since you're likely to heal yourself to full from the tank buster. It could even surpassed Hallowed Ground if you use it when your hp is low.
    You've essentially turned it into Superbolide.

    To be frank, Holmgang and Superbolide are already better than Hallowed. Anything that removes the KO effect on LD will make it instantly better simply because of the duration. I'd rather they shorten Hallowed than continuous to force some convoluted system or make it a healer resource blackhole all so it can be vaguely unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Possible Idea:

    If you activate Walking Dead, and your Simulacrum (Living Shadow) is out, it will kill the living shadow instead of you.
    Then no DRK ever will touch Living Dead because it's now become a damage loss. Trying defensives to damage in any capacity is a terrible idea.
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  10. #30
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    Superbolide provide a true invul. At the very least it can be use to cheese the debuff mechanic while LD can't. Meanwhile your preferred freeze HP version make it better than Superbolide no matter what.
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    Last edited by The_User; 02-14-2022 at 03:14 AM.

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