Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
I guess I must have missed the part where we learned that the 3rd sacrifice was the first step of them moving on. Do we even know if the 2nd summoning was also done by people who were willing to give up their lives to get the planet healing again? I'm leaning towards the new life being sentient as from what we know Venat's group wanted them to be handed the baton. We also know it wasn't as aetherically dense as the Ancients were and must have looked strange enough that many saw it as mishapen. Depending on what a Meteion says about how planetary lifestreams work it could have been alien life that was reborn. How can so many be sure that if she did choose to tell even post Zodiark the things she knew that they'd of listened? There was an impasse or Elidibus wouldn't have felt a need to detach himself from Zodiark. Heck even if they did listen both Hythlodaeus and Emet agreed that Hermes was making the test a fair one before we escaped.

Yes, Azem went to the volcanic island. Most of the convocation were fine with the choices given the inhabitants of the island saying that any and all who didn't want to die by said Volcano had already done so. Those who stayed we're given to assume we're fine with their at time time presumed death. It was Azem who went nah screw that when I know I can save everyone and got Hythlodaeus to help out by allowing them to use the Ifrita concept. For me the biggest question and what the heck and it looks like a dick move is Azem just deciding to go with neither plan. Either they had prophetic visions or Venat clued them in on some things. Cause it doesn't fit with what little we've been told about their personality.

Are both what Venat did and the rejoinings dick moves? Heck yeah. Is what the future Ironworks a dick move? Not really? They had no way and still didn't have a away to know if their plan succeeded or not. They just know the tower got yeeted and Midgardsormr woke up after a 200yr long nap and regardless of their plan's outcome they still existed.
I still am of the mindset that Azem went to seek a third option that would eliminate the need both for Zodiark's summoning and the Sundering. Which would very much imply Venat did not tell them either, as the recordings in Anyder suggest.