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[Skiros]

Since this is on the topic of Lost Ark, which founders pack is most worth it?

Apparently Gold has the most value from what I've heard. If you just wanna play casually IMO it would be Bronze.

[Skiros]

The people familiar with MMO PR already know, the YoshiP devout will consider you a blasphemer and never believe.

Honestly. I have over 1000 days of /playtime and am a pretty hardcore FF14 player. But I can still see the flaws of the game. Some people truly treat it as a personal attack whenever you criticize FF14. The retorts they make stem from an emotional reaction.

This kind of blind positivity and intolerance of critiques is going to ruin FF14 one day. It's also frankly kind of weird, bordering on unsettling, seeing the amount of people (not all) who act as if they're in a cult. Thank God most people I know who play this game, IRL or not, are sane and see through the PR talk lol.

[Driavna]

Since this is on the topic of Lost Ark, which founders pack is most worth it?

That will be gold. Mostly because in-game currency and 30 days of premium cover the cost of the pack and everything else is an extra. However, my recommendation will be to wait for it to be free and try it out enough till you know you like it (from personal experience from others games I recommend to wait till the honeymoon is over). I will bet my two arms and legs that at some point in the future others packs will be available.

If you are tempted to get the most expensive one for that exclusive cosmetic I should warn you, and everyone else, that those skins are old and compare to current stuff are meh. Most, if not all, don't support current dye system either.

Another recommendation is to ignore premium sub as long as you are levelling, so even if you get a pack don't use right away. NA/EU version is pure QoL compared to Korea.

[KizuyaKatogami]

dont worry lost ark will be dead in two months like new world

Bit disingenuous to say this. Find it a bit funny the ff community likes to rag on other mmo’s but then cries and screams and sends death threats to people who rag on ff.

[Vahlnir]

Bit disingenuous to say this. Find it a bit funny the ff community likes to rag on other mmo’s but then cries and screams and sends death threats to people who rag on ff.

It's more about past experiences. Just about every new MMO that has released in recent years has either flopped insanely hard or faded into obscurity. This isn't an FF community thing. This is an internet "been around the block more than once" thing.

[Alsi270]

One day you'll need 23000 trophies to do ultimate and people will really realize what gatekeeping is.
If you do ultimate or savage or any other content it is only because the developers allow you to do it.

Doing HL on lost ark is about the same as getting 23000 trophies on ff14. Or rather it would be if you don't pay 50 bucks a month.

Good news for those who play ultimate, despite the absurd accusations you make about the game's business model and despite the fact that you constantly shit on the developers of ff14, they don't intend to put ultimate behind a daily arbsurd farm or behind a pay to win wall.

[KizuyaKatogami]

It's more about past experiences. Just about every new MMO that has released in recent years has either flopped insanely hard or faded into obscurity. This isn't an FF community thing. This is an internet "been around the block more than once" thing.

Right but it’s a bit damning to just immediately write an mmo off as “lul totally not gonna last.” I think people need to learn from the beautiful themes this game grants us and have hope. Didn’t people say the exact same about 14 after 1.0 and look what happened lol. I think people are just scared about competition.

[Vahlnir]

Right but it’s a bit damning to just immediately write an mmo off as “lul totally not gonna last.” I think people need to learn from the beautiful themes this game grants us and have hope. Didn’t people say the exact same about 14 after 1.0 and look what happened lol. I think people are just scared about competition.

FF XIV was insanely lucky. Don't ever recall seeing a game die, get burnt to the ground and rebuilt again into a massive success quite like FF XIV has been. I'd love to see more competition arise. Competition leads to innovation. But at this point people are getting their hopes up repeatedly with new MMOs, only leading to disappointment. This one will be no different, judging by their business model. They clearly just want to make as much money as possible before people start leaving. They aren't interested in making a good game.

[Sauteed]

I wish people stopped repeating that Yoshida quote because based on how the game is designed, it absolutely does not want you to unsub. Otherwise there wouldn't be things as housing demolition, or staggering content to come out in different weeks each patch (6.1, 6.11, 6.15...).

On the contrary, I think he would rather someone unsub and take a break and come back instead of burn our and leave for extremely long time. I wish people would quit taking the 3rd party program stuff he has said completely out of context and warping it into the pathological lie beating stick it has become today. Large difference between subjects but the point I am getting across to you is one is in context, and one is not.

My comment is the guy literally point blank said take breaks we encourage that. Come back and enjoy it when you do come back.

I took his advice took a nice long break because I thought the last expansion sucked. I came back and thoroughly enjoyed my time so far. I'm probably not playing as the developers have envisioned a person should play. I dont do dailies, dont care one whit for savage or ex trials, and I get my rocks off rotating furniture for hours on end and helping with fc related things. I may direct queue for dungeons or do dailies with fc members from time to time but the "point" of the game whether it be story or getting my ilvl up, or even leveling every jurb to 90 is like the last stuff in Eorzea I am even playing the game for.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Right but it’s a bit damning to just immediately write an mmo off as “lul totally not gonna last.” I think people need to learn from the beautiful themes this game grants us and have hope. Didn’t people say the exact same about 14 after 1.0 and look what happened lol. I think people are just scared about competition.

Arche Age (was going to kill XIV) B&S (was going to kill XIV) Black Desert (was going to kill XIV)... New World.... Theres a pattern here.

I've played most MMOs, I started with Guild Wars, then SWG, Lineage 2, WoW, XI, TOR, Tera, GW2, WildStar, A bunch of obscure ones no ones ever heard of... Etc. XIV wasn't my first MMO, its just the one I've stuck with the longest. And its the one that's lasted (for me).

Most recent MMOs coming out have simply been cash grabs. Every MMO that had a founders pack to buy into... has faded into obscurity.... That's not bias, that's precedence.