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  1. #71
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    All this talk of doing Forbidden West and my broke arse just dipped into No Man’s Sky when it was on a fire sale.

    Agree tho- Zero Dawn is the best game I have played in years…someday when Forbidden West it comes to PC..I’ll be waitin!
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    Not sure if this has been mentioned but Yoshida has been quoted saying he encourages people to take a break and come back to the game after their break. That's cool. I wish more developers of these kinds of mmorpg's took this approach. Now I don't agree with a lot going on IN xiv, but that developer attitude to me is 100% approvable by me and I like that about the development team.


    I dont really consider myself a gamer, I enjoy chilling with my FC and decorating houses and socializing in general and xiv provides that for me.

    Grindy butt sludge mmos in general suck horribly,and function like a 2nd job and ain't nobody got fo dat.

    https://youtu.be/waEC-8GFTP4 A55 2 MOWF B!cH3Z


    h3wj B1ch
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  3. #73
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    It's going to be Horizon Forbidden West and GW2 xpac for me this month. Can't wait! \o/
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  4. #74
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    Kenoh'tan Desaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauteed View Post
    Not sure if this has been mentioned but Yoshida has been quoted saying he encourages people to take a break and come back to the game after their break. That's cool. I wish more developers of these kinds of mmorpg's took this approach. Now I don't agree with a lot going on IN xiv, but that developer attitude to me is 100% approvable by me and I like that about the development team.


    I dont really consider myself a gamer, I enjoy chilling with my FC and decorating houses and socializing in general and xiv provides that for me.

    Grindy butt sludge mmos in general suck horribly,and function like a 2nd job and ain't nobody got fo dat.

    https://youtu.be/waEC-8GFTP4
    Not only does Yoshi P encourage it, but I think most of the devs now understand that many players resub for a couple months each expansion/patch to do the story and hang out a bit before dipping and waiting for the next, and that's fine by them since it is still money.
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  5. #75
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    Can't even get a weekly reclear going smh
    Odd i have the same log in queues the servers are full but I bet you knew that.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    This games community is so embarrassingly tribalistic sometimes.
    Ikr LMAO

    I didn't even expect this much insecurity. Accidental bait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauteed View Post
    Not sure if this has been mentioned but Yoshida has been quoted saying he encourages people to take a break and come back to the game after their break. That's cool. I wish more developers of these kinds of mmorpg's took this approach. Now I don't agree with a lot going on IN xiv, but that developer attitude to me is 100% approvable by me and I like that about the development team.


    I dont really consider myself a gamer, I enjoy chilling with my FC and decorating houses and socializing in general and xiv provides that for me.

    Grindy butt sludge mmos in general suck horribly,and function like a 2nd job and ain't nobody got fo dat.

    https://youtu.be/waEC-8GFTP4
    I wish people stopped repeating that Yoshida quote because based on how the game is designed, it absolutely does not want you to unsub. Otherwise there wouldn't be things as housing demolition, or staggering content to come out in different weeks each patch (6.1, 6.11, 6.15...).
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  8. #78
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    I seriously doubt housing demolition is there to keep people subscribed, and not as a bandaid on the exceedingly low housing supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightEquinox View Post
    I seriously doubt housing demolition is there to keep people subscribed, and not as a bandaid on the exceedingly low housing supply.
    That's exactly what it is. I was here when they decided to impose the 45 day limit in order to open up plots owned by people who left the game. This was many years ago and the overall housing situation wasn't even close to being what it is now, but people on certain servers were still limited, so SE called Fair Play and added the demo timer.
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    Last edited by Illmaeran; 02-10-2022 at 02:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    I wish people stopped repeating that Yoshida quote because based on how the game is designed, it absolutely does not want you to unsub. Otherwise there wouldn't be things as housing demolition, or staggering content to come out in different weeks each patch (6.1, 6.11, 6.15...).
    It would be true that no game company actually wants players to unsub but this is one company that doesn't mind if you unsub. They know as long as they're releasing content players enjoy, the players will come back at some point.

    Demolition is to keep a limited resource in the hands of those who actively play the game instead of letting it sit unused. It's not to keep players subbed. If it was intended to keep players subbed, demolition would happen after 7 days, not 45 days, so the players would have to effectively remain subbed to avoid losing the house. You can easily keep a house by subbing for 30 days then unsubbing for 6 weeks before subbing again. That's 60% of the year you can be unsubbed and still keep your house.

    Staggered content releases work out to benefit of both players and developers. It gives players more to look forward to instead of consuming it all in a week. If there are issues with the content that's released, developers have a smaller number of potential problems to correct at a time so they can focus on getting them corrected more rapidly compared through sorting through a queue and trying to prioritize which out of a huge number of bugs to fix first.

    As for YoshiP specifically, being a gamer himself I'm sure he is sincere when he says "please unsub and enjoy other games once you've finished what content you want to in FFXIV". Part of what has helped FFXIV's success is that he chose to learn from what other games did and apply what was learned here. The gaming industry in general is stronger when players play multiple games, not just by spreading money around but by watching player feedback to see what content clicks with players and what is less successful.

    A player can easily unsub until the .x5 patch is released if they want to experience all the patch content at once then unsub once they're done with it. Unless someone is a progression raider out to clear all of Savage the first week of release, there's no overwhelming need to be subbed when a patch comes out. The content isn't going to disappear.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 02-10-2022 at 04:06 AM.

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