Warning for "Grief" Tactics?!

[SturmChurro]

That is called an example of something that would constitute as a violation that someone might otherwise consider themselves just playing the game. Arguably with both the report and the action carried out on your account it was fairly agreed upon that what you have done did constitute as an account violation. See, amongst all the things you could have done to vent you insisted that you've done nothing wrong, then gone on to say "Well how I behave on here isn't necessarily how I present myself in-game" All the way up to "People just don't like how I word things"

I might have actually been inclined to join your little venting crusade if it were underpinned by the reasoning that you don't think it is justifiable that they can sanction you without giving you an avenue formally at the same time where you can try and dispute the decision, or an avenue with which to see the logs associated with the decision making, of which there is (DSAR). Instead of being insistent that you were innocent and that the community are just babies that like being coddled through everything. Inarguably you're more upset and have put more effort into this vent than the person did in actually reporting you.

I'm glad you liked the rationalisation of it. Because it's true. If you breach the ToS it shows an unwillingness to act appropriately and thus someone reporting you is doing a civil service by ensuring that you're deterred from repeating the mistake (That is if you reflect on your own actions) - P.S I saw that little ninja edit. In response to saying you'll use it as justification whenever you report someone. To that end I wish you all the best in your endeavours of fighting the good fight and doing the selfsame thing that you bashed people for in your original post.

I am innocent. I haven't participated in 'grief tactics'. I complain about it constantly on here. Literally. I have gotten in arguments on here over what I think is griefing: the improper usage of rescue, RDM LB3 blinding players during mechanic heavy moments, etc.. The reason I vehemently defend my innocence is because, again, I did not do it. How I play the game isn't me "griefing", and I never stated that I outright am refusing to raise or heal people either, yet it seems to be a common accusation levied at me here.

I have barely put any effort in this vent. I have been posting now while queuing for my weekly raids, and eating breakfast. Yesterday, I think I only posted once in the morning.

I "ninja edit" just about every single thing I post, doesn't even matter what it was. I have talked about it before in other threads, people shouldn't think much on it.

I mean, they might not actually be reporting you out of spite- which is what a large chunk of us are trying to tell you..

I simply do not believe that in the vast majority of circumstances someone is reporting another out of some sort of sense of 'duty'. It's laughably ridiculous to think about. No, it's out of spite. If someone feels the need to report another for leaving a leveling dungeon, that is incredibly petty, in my opinion.

(Not healing, and by extension raising, another player because you don't like their getting hurt/dying)

Oh my God... I never said I refuse to heal. Why does this keep getting brought up?!

[Kaurhz]

I am innocent. I haven't participated in 'grief tactics'. I complain about it constantly on here. Literally. I have gotten in arguments on here over what I think is griefing: the improper usage of rescue, RDM LB3 blinding players during mechanic heavy moments, etc.. The reason I vehemently defend my innocence is because, again, I did not do it. How I play the game isn't me "griefing", and I never stated that I outright am refusing to raise or heal people either, yet it seems to be a common accusation levied at me here. I have barely put any effort in this vent. I have been posting now while doing my weekly raids, and eating breakfast. Yesterday, I think I only posted once in the morning.

I "ninja" edit just about every single thing I post, doesn't even matter what it was. I have talked about it before in other threads, people shouldn't think much on it.

I simply do not believe that in the vast majority of circumstances, that someone is reporting another out of some sort of sense 'duty'. It's laughably ridiculous. No, it's out of spite. If someone feels the need to report another for leaving a leveling dungeon, that is incredibly petty, in my opinion.


Oh my God... I never said I refuse to heal. Why does this keep getting brought up?!

Both a player reporting you and the GM sanctioning you would beg to differ and given how you've presented yourself on this very thread, it doesn't exactly put people in a position to really empathise with your venting. If you're innocent of it then the dispute process that was kindly recommended by another GM will yield some fruitful results. If it doesn't then, well, there seems to be a disparity between how you interpret ToS and what the ToS actually are. Regardless of the circumstance, how you raged doesn't exactly give you a good case to the people reading the thread. Did you miss the part where I said it was merely an example of something that would constitute as a violation? Furthermore, an infraction won't always be a recent behaviour, especially within the last few days. Depending on the volume it could date back weeks.

In fact, looking back at the first page. The only real question I have out of curiosity is whether you silently left, or whether you actually communicated why you were leaving. If it was the former then it leaves the motive up for debate. Whereas if you simply communicated "Sorry I can't play when my connection is this unreliable, I'll leave so it doesn't hinder the the run, bye", then it hardly leaves much in the room for debate. Communicating goes a long way.

I think of it because you elected to use that edit in order to omit what was otherwise a fairly comedic piece of text

[kaynide]

I never stated that I outright am refusing to raise or heal people either, yet it seems to be a common accusation levied at me here.
Oh my God... I never said I refuse to heal. Why does this keep getting brought up?!

Yes, I think how I play healer could also be a general issue with players. They see me casting glare constantly and whine about it. They should have never died in the first place. It is not my place to sit here and babysit bad players. If they die it's their fault.

Seems to imply you are allowing people to die and once dead, leave them there. Even if not, a refusal to do raises is in the same vein. I'm not accusing you- I have no dog in this fight. I don't know any more than what is said here.

I'm simply trying to show you that you might not be innocent, and should that be the result of your appeal, I hope it doesn't make the world come crashing down around you.

I simply do not believe that in the vast majority of circumstances someone is reporting another out of some sort of sense of 'duty'. It's laughably ridiculous to think about. No, it's out of spite. If someone feels the need to report another for leaving a leveling dungeon, that is incredibly petty, in my opinion.

I have filed several reports in my years in game, never out of spite. Simply reporting obvious trolls being obvious or purposefully being idiots at the expense of others. I've reported people for being rude and leavnig mid dungeon (In particular a player with a mentor crown had a lot of rude things to say at a sprout for not understanding a boss mechanic). I simply do not put up with BS.

To the point: I believe most people don't play with any particular other player enough to even have spite towards them. Fine to disagree here though- I don't know the motives of others.

[SturmChurro]

Seems to imply you are allowing people to die and once dead, leave them there. Even if not, a refusal to do raises is in the same vein. I'm not accusing you- I have no dog in this fight. I don't know any more than what is said here.

I'm simply trying to show you that you might not be innocent, and should that be the result of your appeal, I hope it doesn't make the world come crashing down around you.





I have filed several reports in my years in game, never out of spite. Simply reporting obvious trolls being obvious or purposefully being idiots at the expense of others. I've reported people for being rude and leavnig mid dungeon (In particular a player with a mentor crown had a lot of rude things to say at a sprout for not understanding a boss mechanic). I simply do not put up with BS.

To the point: I believe most people don't play with any particular other player enough to even have spite towards them. Fine to disagree here though- I don't know the motives of others.

There is such a thing as oGCD heals and abilities, and even lillies do not require a cast. When a player looks over they see me casting glare, and assume that is all I do, and start harassing me over it.

a player who stands in aoes one after the other, runs mechanics into other players, runs a stack marker alone to the edge of the arena, gets pushed into spikes, stands next to a tank with a tankbuster, backflips off the side, gets pushed off the side, stands in an instakill mechanic (LoTA, Amon, etc.), etc. Yes, it is their fault.

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I have filed zero reports in my years in game. I have nobody on my blacklist. My distaste for many who hold the "mentor" status is known, and even then I don't report them. The mentors who harassed me and kicked me out of the novice network on my alt, I did not report. The player trying to kill me in Bozja with mobs, I did not report. The players who have rescued me into mechanics, I did not report. I had never thought anything they did was worth them potentially losing their account over.