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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    A 97% drop in only a few months of an MMO is pretty freaking bad I don't know what brand of copium you're inhaling to think otherwise. Do you want to explain why FFXIV, despite never having a large twitch audience, is significantly more popular and has only increased in popularity despite a tanking in Twitch viewership?
    FFXIV has been and always will do fine. I don't know what kind of strawman argument you're trying to entrap me into but the current twitch popularity is definitely telling me the game is A-Okay!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    97% LOL Bruh, if the number dropped that much, I wouldn't be able to queue for any roulettes what kind of phony bologna numbers are you making up here? The game isn't dead and it's not at any risk of dying. What kind of misinformation are you trying to convince people of? This is hilarious?! LOL

    You people act as if Covid still isn't a thing or something along with several recessions. But seriously go on more with your game philosophy stuff and tell me how that worked out for your precious WoW. This stuff is comedy gold honestly.
    Just because a large percentage of players dropped off doesn't mean content is completely undoable.

    1 billion players is also 3% of a larger number.

    1 million players is 3% of a larger number.

    3 players is 3% of a larger number.

    You can still have a playable game if those 1 million players all play in roughly the same time period.

    The % in the drop off in the given time frame along with the drop in twitch viewership doesn't make the game look good. It means there may be some design philosophies in New World that weren't such good choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seera1024 View Post
    Just because a large percentage of players dropped off doesn't mean content is completely undoable.

    1 billion players is also 3% of a larger number.

    1 million players is 3% of a larger number.

    3 players is 3% of a larger number.

    You can still have a playable game if those 1 million players all play in roughly the same time period.

    The % in the drop off in the given time frame along with the drop in twitch viewership doesn't make the game look good. It means there may be some design philosophies in New World that weren't such good choices.
    Well FFXIV's design philosophies are fine. It's in no danger.

    EDIT: I seem to have hit my post limit for the day. Have a goodnight ya'll was a good chat o7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    Well FFXIV's design philosophies are fine.
    That may be, but it's not the reason the large viewership streamers are playing the game.

    Large viewership streamers are playing the game because that's where the views and therefore the money is.

    Those large viewership streamers started looking for new games to play because they were getting bored with their previous game or their previous game fell into a bad scandal and they needed a new game to play while the scandal blew over or not or some combination of reasons either mentioned or not. They stuck with streaming FFXIV because they got tons of views for it. If the views hadn't been there it would not have been a main focus of their streams if they even streamed it, though they may have continued to play the game off stream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    By your logic, then every new game ever released is a bad game because they all drop in popularity after launch but go on with lying with statistics I do love this game!
    You created a conclusion that no one directly made. The surge of popularity in FFXIV is due to social media. The game loosing most of its population through out an expansion because of bad game philosophy.

    This bad game philosophy is pretty much the copy pasted patches we get with less content than we ever had gotten before. Dungeons being copy pasted products of 2 pulls and a boss x3. This repetitive content does not hold players interest for a full patch in most cases let a lone a full expansion. Now Yoshi P can say that he is respecting players time, but thats not exactly true. Respecting a players time would give us options of content to do for the same result, not run one dungeon 5x a week to get 450 tome stones to progress your gear. In Yoshi P's case they say they are respecting our time and that we should take breaks because they just do not make enough content to maintain player retention not because they respect our time with the content produced.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    97% LOL Bruh, if the number dropped that much, I wouldn't be able to queue for any roulettes what kind of phony bologna numbers are you making up here? The game isn't dead and it's not at any risk of dying. What kind of misinformation are you trying to convince people of? This is hilarious?! LOL

    You people act as if Covid still isn't a thing or something along with several recessions. But seriously go on more with your game philosophy stuff and tell me how that worked out for your precious WoW. This stuff is comedy gold honestly.
    They were referring to New World with the 97% drop. Also covid is not an excuse, it is only used when some one can't make an actual argument as these issues existed before the covid outbreak. This game has been cutting content, and corners before the covid outbreak. Covid outbreak is not going to affect the design philosophy of the game when the game has continued to follow it's same formula that is has been using before covid. Maybe they could say they have not changed the patch formula because of covid, but they would have to first state that they wanted to change that to begin with, which they have not done.
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