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    Caur Kagon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
    I like Emet-Selch, but man is it TIRING hearing his fans go "No, see, it's okay that he wanted to commit mass genocide because they weren't really people in his eyes", while at the same time condemning Hydaelyn's actions as mass genocide or ignoring Emet-Selch's straight up evil actions like having Vauthry be born a monster guaranteed to become a tyrannical dictator or literally everything going on with Allag.
    I'd argue Emet is far worst than Venat. What Venat did was sad but free of malice and manipulation. Emet's (and the Ascians') m.o. is all about malice and manipulation.
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    Emet-Selch is worse than Hydaelin.
    Allag bringing suffering and destruction upon the dragons of Meracydia were directly his fault. They had NOTHING to do with the sundering or "our" star's problems. They fled from a star that got senselessly destroyed by heartless war machines only for his droopy-eyed arse to make this happen to them again when they were trying to mind their own business surviving.
    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    I'd argue Emet is far worst than Venat. What Venat did was sad but free of malice and manipulation. Emet's (and the Ascians') m.o. is all about malice and manipulation.
    I'm not sure if my wording was confusing or not, but I was agreeing with you.

    The point I was making was that it is ridiculous that Emet-Selch gets a pass from his fans for literally being the mastermind behind several murderous campaigns (to the point he calls his future self a megalomaniac in Endwalker!), but Venat gets criticized for trying to talk her people out of a slow process of circular suicide.
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    Princess Walk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
    I'm not sure if my wording was confusing or not, but I was agreeing with you.

    The point I was making was that it is ridiculous that Emet-Selch gets a pass from his fans for literally being the mastermind behind several murderous campaigns (to the point he calls his future self a megalomaniac in Endwalker!), but Venat gets criticized for trying to talk her people out of a slow process of circular suicide.
    I wasn't disagreeing with you. Just wanted to emphasize to people, he's arguably much worse despite having a legion of fujoshi doing romantic fanart.
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    Cesan Duff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
    I'm not sure if my wording was confusing or not, but I was agreeing with you.

    The point I was making was that it is ridiculous that Emet-Selch gets a pass from his fans for literally being the mastermind behind several murderous campaigns (to the point he calls his future self a megalomaniac in Endwalker!), but Venat gets criticized for trying to talk her people out of a slow process of circular suicide.
    do you know about otto from honkai impact? xD
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    Mother Kos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
    I'm not sure if my wording was confusing or not, but I was agreeing with you.

    The point I was making was that it is ridiculous that Emet-Selch gets a pass from his fans for literally being the mastermind behind several murderous campaigns (to the point he calls his future self a megalomaniac in Endwalker!), but Venat gets criticized for trying to talk her people out of a slow process of circular suicide.
    I'm not active in the 14 fandom outside of these forums, but I am so glad I'm not the only one who noticed this.
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