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    AnotherPerson's Avatar
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    Cain Andleft
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhNooo View Post
    Speaking of Minfilia, you know how in the dungeon

    The Atiascope where Hauchefant gives us a buff for standing in his circle? So when we see Minfilia walking around, the party waited near her for a little while expecting to get something. I was like “Damn, even in the afterlife she’s useless Couldn’t even give me a buff!"


    LOL
    Minfilia was
    Creating the road for you to walk. The light that connects paths together? That was her. She always say "may you walk in the light of the crystal" like Venat, but she actually literally does it here by letting you continue when there was no path left forward. It's also a symbolism to creating a path that led the First to survive, symbolism that the connection to Hyadelyn was too faint but Minfilia sacrificed herself to keep the connection alive. To lead those who may walk after (dead creating a path so the ones alive can still continue).
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    Lilith Belmont
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    most of the scions.... like I really hope we get a long ass break from them for awhile.... not holding my breath.....
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    Last Starfighter
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    Tarutaru. Wish SE would kill her off already.
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    Lyse is a revolutionary larper I can see why people want her gone, Surprised ysholda isn't second on the list.
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    I survived because the fire inside burned brighter than the fire around me. - Joshua Graham

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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Fandaniel I found extremely annoying. I actually like or dont mind most of the people listed here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    I'm not active in the 14 fandom outside of these forums, but I am so glad I'm not the only one who noticed this.
    Same going into a lore thread and mentioning what Emet has done. Results in torches, pitchforks. But ripping Venat gets you honor and praise.
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 03-11-2022 at 03:06 PM.

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    Cesan Duff
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Same going into a lore thread and mentioning what Emet has done. Results in torches, pitchforks. But ripping Venat gets you honor and praise.
    fanboyism has never been logical
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    William Hart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Post here and image of the one that is cringe worthy for you and you hate.

    My choice goes for Nanamo ul Namo

    I was so happy when she died. But I was crushed when I learned it was all a lie
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    Emet-Selch's motives were easily understood and sympathetic, but his method wasn't reasonably acceptable.

    Venat's motives were largely ideological and thus not nearly concise, and her methods similarly resulted in immense suffering for the people of Etheriys, but were painted as a necessary evil. The disagreements arise largely from the thought that she could've potentially avoided the original Final Days, the Sundering, basically every bad thing that's happened throughout the history of Etheriys through better use of the foreknowledge she was given (Nevermind that the causal loop mandated that things had to have played out in a certain way), which is why I feel like she would've been more widely accepted had they not even left that window open by depriving her of said knowledge, either by avoiding the time travel entirely, or having her memories get wiped as well.

    I don't dislike either of them, but I have a very hard time forming a solid opinion about the latter due to how badly the timey-wimey nonsense muddles everything.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 03-11-2022 at 05:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Emet-Selch's motives were easily understood and sympathetic, but his method wasn't reasonably acceptable.

    Venat's motives were largely ideological and thus not nearly concise, and her methods similarly resulted in immense suffering for the people of Etheriys, but were painted as a necessary evil. The disagreements arise largely from the thought that she could've potentially avoided the original Final Days, the Sundering, basically every bad thing that's happened throughout the history of Etheriys through better use of the foreknowledge she was given (Nevermind that the causal loop mandated that things had to have played out in a certain way), which is why I feel like she would've been more widely accepted had they not even left that window open by depriving her of said knowledge, either by avoiding the time travel entirely, or having her memories get wiped as well.

    I don't dislike either of them, but I have a very hard time forming a solid opinion about the latter due to how badly the timey-wimey nonsense muddles everything.
    Atleast Venat admits her plan had very bad things happen with it, where as Emet straight up never apologizes for what amounts to ethnic cleansing.
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