An NPC you truly hate with passion

[IdowhatIwant]

The only thing I want each expansion, is Tataru's death.

One day...

[Simple_Barghest]

Zenos. Entirely because of his rabid, and I do mean bloody rabid fangirls.

1) Your taste in husbando is absolute dogshit, and some of you should probably seek psychiatric help. Maybe you're playing up a bit, I don't know, but abusive relationships aren't good for anyone.
2) He might be a "reflection and foil" of "The Player" and "You the character," but don't put that shit on me.
3) Half-assed and poorly-plotted-out rival plotline that they forced hard for the rest of Endwalker.

[Conundrum]

Zenos. Entirely because of his rabid, and I do mean bloody rabid fangirls.

1) Your taste in husbando is absolute dogshit, and some of you should probably seek psychiatric help. Maybe you're playing up a bit, I don't know, but abusive relationships aren't good for anyone.
2) He might be a "reflection and foil" of "The Player" and "You the character," but don't put that shit on me.
3) Half-assed and poorly-plotted-out rival plotline that they forced hard for the rest of Endwalker.

But if the alpha bad boy falls for me I can fix him!!!

oh wait that's the real world.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

Emet Selch, because all the simps.

I like Emet-Selch, but man is it TIRING hearing his fans go "No, see, it's okay that he wanted to commit mass genocide because they weren't really people in his eyes", while at the same time condemning Hydaelyn's actions as mass genocide or ignoring Emet-Selch's straight up evil actions like having Vauthry be born a monster guaranteed to become a tyrannical dictator or literally everything going on with Allag.

[Zeldert-Castiel]

G'raha Tia in 5.4 to 5.55. Too simp'ish in contrast to their involvement in the base expansion.

FINALLY another person who hates this stupid red cat

[Zeldert-Castiel]

G'raha. He was great as the exarch but I genuinely stopped liking him after Endwalker.

I hated him after 5.0 because seems like he was shoved to the Scions against the WoL's will. I never says yes to accept him

[drtasteyummy]

Hildebrand Manderville. I have a general distaste for characters that fail at comic relief because they are pushed too far into the over-the-top-goofy category. In his quest chains I found myself skipping most of the dialogue because he just irritates the hell out of me.

The humour felt a lot like it was directed towards Japanese culture tbf

[Snorky]

Zenos. Entirely because of his rabid, and I do mean bloody rabid fangirls.

1) Your taste in husbando is absolute dogshit, and some of you should probably seek psychiatric help. Maybe you're playing up a bit, I don't know, but abusive relationships aren't good for anyone.
2) He might be a "reflection and foil" of "The Player" and "You the character," but don't put that shit on me.
3) Half-assed and poorly-plotted-out rival plotline that they forced hard for the rest of Endwalker.

Best opinion in this thread. Zeno's can not be fixed he's a broken insane mess. Plus I absolutely can't stand people or characters who go around claiming to be bored all the time only to continue to do the activity that bored them. Just reminds me of attention seekers or bandwagoneers.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

Best opinion in this thread. Zeno's can not be fixed he's a broken insane mess. Plus I absolutely can't stand people or characters who go around claiming to be bored all the time only to continue to do the activity that bored them. Just reminds me of attention seekers or bandwagoneers.

I feel like Zenos is supposed to be a subtle critique of both Garlemald and Emet-Selch, as he embodies traits that both find deplorable despite being a product of the both of them. He probably could find fulfillment elsewhere if he actually devoted himself to something other than military conquest and warmongering, but he's been raised as the son of Garlemald's emperor. Combat is something he can't avoid, especially given that he's the only heir to Varis and likely the only one who could reasonably inherit the throne and thereby the Garlean ideology of conquest.

That being said, I find him not particularly interesting, barring a few flashes here and there (like his speech to Jullus), because the Warrior of Light is not constrained within the same limits. Sure, we fight and kill things, but we also can be crafters that build things for people, participate in holiday events whether they have dire consequences or not, play Triple Triad, go fishing, hunt for treasure, garden, race chocobos, etc. The Warrior of Light has room for many aspects of character beyond just being a person who thirsts only for the thrill of combat, even if combat is the main content of the game, so I can't really buy the idea that Zenos is supposed to be a mirror of me as a player.

[ReynTime]

I like Emet-Selch, but man is it TIRING hearing his fans go "No, see, it's okay that he wanted to commit mass genocide because they weren't really people in his eyes", while at the same time condemning Hydaelyn's actions as mass genocide or ignoring Emet-Selch's straight up evil actions like having Vauthry be born a monster guaranteed to become a tyrannical dictator or literally everything going on with Allag.

Emet-Selch is worse than Hydaelin.
Allag bringing suffering and destruction upon the dragons of Meracydia were directly his fault. They had NOTHING to do with the sundering or "our" star's problems. They fled from a star that got senselessly destroyed by heartless war machines only for his droopy-eyed arse to make this happen to them again when they were trying to mind their own business surviving.