1 ultimate instead of 2 ?

[CKNovel]

No.

Delubrum savage was way too long and every night was 2-3 pulls. I hated this.
15 minutes is long and it's a good thing the last part is often a road to victory.

When progging, if you're at the end of prog, on a raid night of 3 hours, you get 12 pulls minimum.
If your abomination of 30 minutes ultimate would happen, that would be 6 pulls.

[CaedemSanguis]

No.

Delubrum savage was way too long and every night was 2-3 pulls. I hated this.
15 minutes is long and it's a good thing the last part is often a road to victory.

When progging, if you're at the end of prog, on a raid night of 3 hours, you get 12 pulls minimum.
If your abomination of 30 minutes ultimate would happen, that would be 6 pulls.

Thats the point

Its supposed to get harder, become more prestigious

[ForteNightshade]

Thats the point

Its supposed to get harder, become more prestigious

Except making it longer achieves neither. Tacking on twelve more minutes to UCoB doesn't make it any more prestigious nor would it be necessarily any harder in terms of actual challenging mechanics. It's simply be mentally exhausting. Content still has to be fun and engaging even if it's difficult. There comes a point of diminishing returns where something takes so long it just isn't fun any longer. You also run into creative limitations. There is only so much the devs can come up with when designing a fight, especially one of this magnitude. Eventually, they'll just be throwing the same series of mechanics at players to pad out the length because they've simply run out of ideas.

I much prefer having UCoB and UwU, two very distinct and different fights in theme, concept and execution, then for UCoB to be a 30 minute slog I'm too exhausted to even enjoy by the time I clear it.

[CaedemSanguis]

Except making it longer achieves neither. Tacking on twelve more minutes to UCoB doesn't make it any more prestigious nor would it be necessarily any harder in terms of actual challenging mechanics. It's simply be mentally exhausting. Content still has to be fun and engaging even if it's difficult. There comes a point of diminishing returns where something takes so long it just isn't fun any longer. You also run into creative limitations. There is only so much the devs can come up with when designing a fight, especially one of this magnitude. Eventually, they'll just be throwing the same series of mechanics at players to pad out the length because they've simply run out of ideas.

I much prefer having UCoB and UwU, two very distinct and different fights in theme, concept and execution, then for UCoB to be a 30 minute slog I'm too exhausted to even enjoy by the time I clear it.

It will be way harder, and less clears, so it will be more prestigious to have achieve a 24mn-27mn lenght ultimate fight

[Nestama]

It will be way harder, and less clears, so it will be more prestigious to have achieve a 24mn-27mn lenght ultimate fight

Time doesn't make the fight hard, though. That's what the mechanics are made for.
Making the fight last 30 minutes forces everyone to make sure they will not be interrupted by IRL stuff (such as suddenly needing to go to the bathroom, or your child needs you for something while you're 24 minutes into the fight, etc). All Ultimate needs is difficult/tricky mechanics.

[Sathona]

Thats the point

Its supposed to get harder, become more prestigious

Theres nothing prestigious about increasing the fights duration, people will continue buying their clears as they do now anyway.
They COULD add some more complexity in ultimates i guess? but length? nawh.

[CaedemSanguis]

Theres nothing prestigious about increasing the fights duration, people will continue buying their clears as they do now anyway.
They COULD add some more complexity in ultimates i guess? but length? nawh.

I assure you that the clear rate will significantly drop

less clear = more prestige

[hfang]

less clear = more prestige

no one gives a shit. UCoB has the least clears out of the three ultimates and that doesn't mean that it's the most prestigious, just means that people won't go through the trouble of clearing the fight because it's A) too long and B) the mechanics can get annoying. I can say this because UCoB is the only ultimate i have cleared, myself, and I see that you're a triple legend.

You shouldn't be doing ultimates for e-peen points or for "prestige". You should be doing ultimates to challenge yourself.

[CaedemSanguis]

no one gives a shit. UCoB has the least clears out of the three ultimates and that doesn't mean that it's the most prestigious, just means that people won't go through the trouble of clearing the fight because it's A) too long and B) the mechanics can get annoying. I can say this because UCoB is the only ultimate i have cleared, myself, and I see that you're a triple legend.

You shouldn't be doing ultimates for e-peen points or for "prestige". You should be doing ultimates to challenge yourself.

Do you see an ultimate title/or ultimate weapon skins ?
https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cter/11577662/

I replied to someone saying that it will not be more difficult
And "less clear = more prestige" is a fact, not a question, even if i dont care about prestige

[icrot]

I replied to someone saying that it will not be more difficult

Of course it will not be more difficult, it will just be more bloody boring.

It seemed like a good thread to debate, but you must be a troll, just repeating the same stuff ad nauseam.