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  1. #1
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Even if WHM's numbers made it competitive, it brings nothing unique to the table and never has. Not since Heavensward. It doesn't stand out in any way.
    WHM is not meant to be on par with the other healers, it's just the training wheels for new players, that just happens to also be good for when you want to turn your brain off but still get fast queues, and that's the hill I'll die on. I'm not saying it as if it were a good thing either, more like in a defeated tone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    WHM is not meant to be on par with the other healers, it's just the training wheels for new players, that just happens to also be good for when you want to turn your brain off but still get fast queues, and that's the hill I'll die on. I'm not saying it as if it were a good thing either, more like in a defeated tone...
    Still, I wish they could've just make CNJ alone as their 'training wheels'-healer.
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    WHM is not meant to be on par with the other healers, it's just the training wheels for new players, that just happens to also be good for when you want to turn your brain off but still get fast queues, and that's the hill I'll die on. I'm not saying it as if it were a good thing either, more like in a defeated tone...
    It's not training wheels.

    Training wheels isn't having only Cure II spam and no mana recovery at low levels, while the others have Cure II equivalents, Kardia/Embrace, decent oGCD's and access mana recovery much earlier. It just feels like it, because it's basic, but in reality the other healers aren't that hard to learn and ease you into the toolkit at a reasonable pace. WHM barely has a toolkit. You're sent into wall pulls with least capability to handle them. It leans on Holy as a clutch so badly it's about to snap.

    If WHM was training wheels it would have some sort of passive heal, a few oGCD's, lots of free mana and really strong GCD's so that healing was easy. Maybe a button on a low cooldown that turned shiny if a player was low and instantly did a big heal on them. That sort of thing.
    It would either lose effectiveness at higher levels or be banned from EX/Savage entirely, like a sort of limited class. Because it's just for training wheels. (Not saying I want that though)

    What we have now is a straight up trap. A weak, ineffective class that's also the worst healer to start with. But players believe it's the beginner healer because you start from lv1 and it doesn't have gimmicks.
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    Last edited by Liam_Harper; 01-28-2022 at 09:24 PM.

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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    WHM is not meant to be on par with the other healers, it's just the training wheels for new players, that just happens to also be good for when you want to turn your brain off but still get fast queues, and that's the hill I'll die on. I'm not saying it as if it were a good thing either, more like in a defeated tone...
    By this logic, every role should have a job that is just arbitrarily worse than its counterparts because training wheels. Since that isn't the case, I call BS.
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