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  1. #41
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    You are comparing a dedicated group working for the advantages of an "off-meta" comp with joining a pug with no co-ordination. If I joined a savage PF as SCH and they brought in a random SGE I would either swap jobs or leave.
    I'd try to coordinate first, not just stand up and leave.
    Worst case, the co heal will shield like a bot. So what? More DPS for me, I guess. If someone is adamant about spending so many GCDs on shielding, I'll just let them do their thing and use my resources elsewhere. It's not the end of the world for me.
    And no, I was not referring to dedicated and highly coordinated groups. I was referring to all sorts of parties. SGE/ SCH is extremely strong in PUGs aswell and easy enough to handle - unless both healers stomp their foot, cross their arms and demand to be THE undisputed GCD shield healer king/ queen for the party.
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  2. #42
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    LisSquid's Avatar
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    Mother Kos
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    Hyperion
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
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    Going to chalk this up to different DCs, but I have no reason to trust a co-healer who popped into the PF with double shields anymore than I trust "Clear for One" parties. Very different culture, so we'll leave it at that.
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  3. #43
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    Going to chalk this up to different DCs, but I have no reason to trust a co-healer who popped into the PF with double shields anymore than I trust "Clear for One" parties. Very different culture, so we'll leave it at that.
    I think the last time I ever done SCH+SCH in any new endgame content was Susano EX on day 3 of Stormblood. There just wasn't enough people who made it to level 70 yet because of a certain congestion problem in the story. Of course it certainly took some extra work, my co-SCH was a good player though.
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  4. #44
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    Lium's Avatar
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    Brielle Artemus
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    Exodus
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    Especially since post-pull, save for certain planned spots, I'm mostly not going to be using Eukrasian shields as a SGE anyway; I'll be focusing on mitigations more. Planned spots I can quickly work out with a SCH if needed ("Hey, do you want me to drop Zoe-buffed shields on folks before Sewage Deluge, or are you going to cover them with yours?"), and SGE mitigations and SCH shields go together like peanut butter and jelly.
    I'm glad you mentioned this. When I heal on SGE I rarely use EDiag or EProg on boss fights at all. I use the big shields like Haima/Panhaima, Taurochole, my AOE heals and regens like Physis and Kerachole. I spend probably 90% of my time DPSing since that acts as a regen. And usually that's more than enough. I hardly ever use the Eukrasian spells. I use those on trash pulls. Mostly for Addersting.

    Quick caveat: I'm talking about normal content and not high end content. Not sure what it's like for savage or extreme stuff.
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  5. #45
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    Nerfworthy's Avatar
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    Luka Larkspur
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    Jenova
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    Sage Lv 88
    It's almost as if they want every SCH to reroll SGE.
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  6. #46
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    Ea Sin
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    The content that would pair two shield healers together doesn't require shields in the first place. So worst-case scenario you overwrite someone's shields and it's not a big deal. Doubt they'll ever bother to fix that. This is how shields have worked since HW.
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