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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feidam View Post
    Yeah it is 8k. It’s actually more. In moonward gear my scholar and sage both heal for about 5150 to 5350 per heal. So that shield is more like 9k. Tying adderssting to the shield imo is what needs to be changed. If the shields can’t stack. I agree that shields stacking might be too much, but as it is now the two healers compete for space with shields.
    Ahh, then I thought they were saying the crits were 8k. My bad.

    But yeah, 2x 8k shields negates a lot of damage.
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Sage and Scholar barriers shouldn't overwrite each other, they should be allowed to be stacked from different healers much like Regen effects can be stacked.

    In End-game content it doesn't matter that much, as groups need to be pre-made you won't get overlap on the healers, but in random queuing for Normal difficulty raids, it actually hurts the group when you get 2 SGE, 2 SCH or one of both since they're going to mess up each others shields...
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    Last edited by CaptainLagbeard; 01-26-2022 at 11:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Sage and Scholar barriers shouldn't overwrite each other, they should be allowed to be stacked from different healers much like Regen effects can be stacked.
    This would be an excellent way to turn SGE/SCH into the go-to healer comp for any serious content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Sage and Scholar barriers shouldn't overwrite each other, they should be allowed to be stacked from different healers much like Regen effects can be stacked.
    Big oof, no way dude. Double crit barriers would be way OP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    Big oof, no way dude. Double crit barriers would be way OP
    This just makes me think that Sages really should have another type of buffing and just let Scholars be the only healing class who applies shields. Because otherwise yeah, if they fix the shields to have them stack one another that would just break the game. I agree that they just need to fix the numerical values between shields to only work allow strong shields to be in effect. Or maybe they could give sages shields to instead sacrifice its effect for a tad more potent heal when paired with a Scholar? Idk there's some ways to work around this so that both classes dont try to outclass each other.
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    Last edited by Atelier-Bagur; 01-26-2022 at 11:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    Big oof, no way dude. Double crit barriers would be way OP
    I don't really see how being able to have 2 Galvanizes from 2 different SCH (or alternatively 2 Eukrasias) would be particularly OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    I don't really see how being able to have 2 Galvanizes from 2 different SCH (or alternatively 2 Eukrasias) would be particularly OP.
    It'll invalidate Astro and White Mage in any end-game content if you just need to bring the shieldy boys and girls to null a good chunk of damage 24/7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    It'll invalidate Astro and White Mage in any end-game content if you just need to bring the shieldy boys and girls to null a good chunk of damage 24/7.
    My counter argument to that would be the absolute waste of MP of spamming Aldoquium or Eukrasian Diagnosis. As Regen and Aspected Benefic still heal more in total than those spells shield for...
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    Last edited by CaptainLagbeard; 01-26-2022 at 12:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Sage and Scholar barriers shouldn't overwrite each other, they should be allowed to be stacked from different healers much like Regen effects can be stacked.

    I don't think this is the solution. IMO a good solution would be to have all shields function the way that re-applying Adlo after Critlo functions: the newer shield has no effect until the older shield is burst or drops off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Sage and Scholar barriers shouldn't overwrite each other, they should be allowed to be stacked from different healers much like Regen effects can be stacked.

    In End-game content it doesn't matter that much, as groups need to be pre-made you won't get overlap on the healers, but in random queuing for Normal difficulty raids, it actually hurts the group when you get 2 SGE, 2 SCH or one of both since they're going to mess up each others shields...
    Excellent. Just delete AST and WHM in one swoop.
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