What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Ryaz]

Pretty obvious because of how squeaky clean she was in the end without even the slightest hint of moral ambiguity that she may not have been 1000% right.

I believe she stated in her final speech that what she did wasn't worthy of praise. More after everything she saw, she felt it was her only option to keep her people from completely destroying themselves. The way the story was presented, it worked out in the end, but she didn't do it because it was the right thing to do, she didn it because she felt it was the only recourse.

She took a gamble that paid off. But she wasn't a monster like some want to make her it to be. She had her reasons for doing it, much like Emet did his, but he gets praised for murdering billions to try to restore things to the way they were, while she gets treated as if she's a psychopath.

You can say the game is biased towards her, but no more than the forums are baised against her.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I believe she stated in her final speech that what she did wasn't worthy of praise. More after everything she saw, she felt it was her only option to keep her people from completely destroying themselves. The way the story was presented, it worked out in the end, but she didn't do it because it was the right thing to do, she didn it because she felt it was the only recourse.

She took a gamble that paid off. But she wasn't a monster like some want to make her it to be. She had her reasons for doing it, much like Emet did his, but he gets praised for murdering billions to try to restore things to the way they were, while she gets treated as if she's a psychopath.

You can say the game is biased towards her, but no more than the forums are baised against her.

The game itself being biased towards her though far outweighs anyones thoughts, because what the game writes is technically canon(sadly). That’s the problem a lot of people have. Emet “murdered” lives yes, however Venat did the same thing. The game doesn’t really state emet as benevolent or a hero, however it does so for Venat. That is the difference here. I’d like to clarify i’m not exactly against the character itself as much as i am the writing. It seems like Venat did a complete 180 character wise. She was fairly likable and smart etc early on in Elpis but it’s like they completely switched gears with her at a point. All of a sudden she has no hope for her people meanwhile later on preaches on and on about not losing hope etc etc, she acts like her people didn’t suffer even though we’re shown time and time again that people were indeed suffering for various reasons. So that’s the problem. She herself states what she did isn’t worthy of praise, yet the narrative itself paints a different story. And this is just more salt in the Elidibus wound because he did the most benevolence out of anyone really considering not only did he pilot zodiark to save everyone, he ejected himself from it to try and calm everyone and mediate, and then even sacrifices himself for us to help us and was extremely vital in saving not only our world but the ancient one in the past as well. Meanwhile he isn’t even given a passing mention? Why is Venat praised as a hero and he isn’t even mentioned whatsoever lol.

[ApolloGenX]

I believe she stated in her final speech that what she did wasn't worthy of praise. More after everything she saw, she felt it was her only option to keep her people from completely destroying themselves. The way the story was presented, it worked out in the end, but she didn't do it because it was the right thing to do, she didn it because she felt it was the only recourse.

She took a gamble that paid off. But she wasn't a monster like some want to make her it to be. She had her reasons for doing it, much like Emet did his, but he gets praised for murdering billions to try to restore things to the way they were, while she gets treated as if she's a psychopath.

You can say the game is biased towards her, but no more than the forums are baised against her.

Emet is a lovable little psychopath. Venat is a pretentious psychopath. I'm not sure why anyone would think either of them isn't a megalomaniac. When you and only you can save the whole world (allegedly)... you are in crazy territory.

I don't mind them being crazy... I just think the game's glorification of Venat/Hydaelyn is.... unwarranted and inappropriate.

I liked fighting her.... maybe it would have been better during the fight if she did come unhinged and show more of her crazy. I think I might have enjoyed that.

[TaleraRistain]

When you and only you can save the whole world (allegedly)... you are in crazy territory.

What about us, the Warrior of Light? We definitely put ourselves in that position. I do feel like in one way Endwalker makes us step back and take a hard look at all that.



On a side note, someone mentioned having Zenos dodge the planets and I can only imagine the hilarity of doing that with the arena rocking a la Sophia.

[OhNooo]

What about us, the Warrior of Light? We definitely put ourselves in that position. I do feel like in one way Endwalker makes us step back and take a hard look at all that.

The game puts us in that position and I actually hate it lol. My character is more of a chaotic neutral or true neutral alignment. But when the game has us doing and acting in ways I could never see my character doing, there's a problem. Which probably means I'd be better off playing DnD or something.