Please equalize rewards between Castrum and Prae

[Erik501]

There is an easy fix for people fishing por one or the other: change it so they can't fish.

Example: you queue for MSQ roulette and get Castrum. Well, Castrum is what you will get everytime you quit and queue again for MSQ roulette for the rest of the day unless you complete it. Problem solved.

If you are going to tell me that you will not queue again if you can't "fish", that's fine then. The reason I don't queue for it now is that half of the party will quit if we get Castrum, so things will even out anyway.

[Seraphor]

Buff the Exp Reward in Castrum.
Keep Prae a guaranteed Level and maybe abit more, like a little under a quarter.
And make Castrum give abit over 3/4ths.

The issue is compared to Prae, it feels like you dont get anything. So sure its shorter...but If the goal is to level then people will want the bigger option.
40-50 minutes of cutscene hell for a little over a whole level? YES PLEASE.
15-20 minutes for barly if even half a level? Nah pass.

You could do Castrum, and then queue directly for your highest level dungeon, and get the same amount of exp for the same time investment.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

Nah. Just make both solo duties and remove MSQ Roulette.

That's what should happen. Let us fight alongside the Scions and co. during those events. I mean... What were they even doing there if not helping us?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

You could do Castrum, and then queue directly for your highest level dungeon, and get the same amount of exp for the same time investment.

Or I could get Prae and then do the current highest dungeon and almost get 2 levels for a longer investment.

[Bjorn-Kobito]

There is an easy fix for people fishing por one or the other: change it so they can't fish.

Example: you queue for MSQ roulette and get Castrum. Well, Castrum is what you will get everytime you quit and queue again for MSQ roulette for the rest of the day unless you complete it. Problem solved.

If you are going to tell me that you will not queue again if you can't "fish", that's fine then. The reason I don't queue for it now is that half of the party will quit if we get Castrum, so things will even out anyway.

That's stupid because it doesn't really change anything or resolve the core underlying issue.

Most people don't fish more than once either. If I get Castrum x2 in a row, I'm not bothering with MSQ anymore for the day anyways since I've already wasted an hour. So, your idea doesn't work here either except for the most extreme cases of people fishing 3+ queues.

[Erik501]

That's stupid because it doesn't really change anything or resolve the core underlying issue.

Most people don't fish more than once either. If I get Castrum x2 in a row, I'm not bothering with MSQ anymore for the day anyways since I've already wasted an hour. So, your idea doesn't work here either except for the most extreme cases of people fishing 3+ queues.

First of all: how do you know how many times they "fish"? Did you run a poll of some sort or something? Did you not? Then you don't know.

Second, currently you don't mind screwing 14 other people if you get Castrum twice in a row, right? Shame on you. If you know you will not do Castrum if it rolls then don't queue for MSQ roulette and spare everybody else the annoyance that comes with people leaving the duty straight away.

Third: a system that would stop you and the lot like you after you have already screwed 7 people is not stupid, it is well deserved at the very least. It would only affect the people who are using the roulette to "fish" instead of using it as it was intended, i.e. you and the lot like you.

[Bjorn-Kobito]

First of all: how do you know how many times they "fish"? Did you run a poll of some sort or something? Did you not? Then you don't know.

Second, currently you don't mind screwing 14 other people if you get Castrum twice in a row, right? Shame on you. If you know you will not do Castrum if it rolls then don't queue for MSQ roulette and spare everybody else the annoyance that comes with people leaving the duty straight away.

Third: a system that would stop you and the lot like you after you have already screwed 7 people is not stupid, it is well deserved at the very least. It would only affect the people who are using the roulette to "fish" instead of using it as it was intended, i.e. you and the lot like you.

You don't need to run a poll or survey. It takes roughly 2-3 hours to complete all your dailies, depending on role and duty. The average person is not spending more than an extra hour just on fishing the queue. If I don't get Prae by my second MSQ queue after waiting 30 minutes from the penalty, I'm not about to wait another 30 minutes again. It's just not worth it.

Instead of making MSQ roulette even worse with your idea, which would also take time to develop a system for, they could easily just change the multiplier for the EXP to match Prae. Then, nobody would leave. You could take the quicker castrum that doesn't allow for you to be semi-afk, or you could do the longer Prae where you can afk. I would still prefer the latter since it's routine for me to watch a TV series during MSQR, but I wouldn't leave the former since it's all the same.

[Yuella]

Or I could get Prae and then do the current highest dungeon and almost get 2 levels for a longer investment.

XP/Time is the same though

[Erik501]

You don't need to run a poll or survey. It takes roughly 2-3 hours to complete all your dailies, depending on role and duty. The average person is not spending more than an extra hour just on fishing the queue. If I don't get Prae by my second MSQ queue after waiting 30 minutes from the penalty, I'm not about to wait another 30 minutes again. It's just not worth it.

Instead of making MSQ roulette even worse with your idea, which would also take time to develop a system for, they could easily just change the multiplier for the EXP to match Prae. Then, nobody would leave. You could take the quicker castrum that doesn't allow for you to be semi-afk, or you could do the longer Prae where you can afk. I would still prefer the latter since it's routine for me to watch a TV series during MSQR, but I wouldn't leave the former since it's all the same.

Just so you know, you are claming to know what everybody else does in the game based only on what you do and what you consider worth it. That is wrong. Period. You don't know.

The MSQ roullette would not be worse with my idea, it would be better for those of us who don't try to cheese the system to take advantage of it disregarding the annoyances caused to other players and worse for all of you who try to cheese the system to take advantage of it disregarding the annoyances caused to other players. I can see how it would be worse for you, of course, but it doesn't mean it would be worse for everybody else too. It would be much better for new players and for people like me who, you know, use the roulettes the way they were intended to be used: you roll a dice and go with it whatever you got.

And since one of the dungeons allows you to afk a lot while the other much less so, it is impossible to find a perfect multiplier for the EXP. Some people will find more value in being able to afk a lot while some others will find more value in being able to finish it sooner. In any case there will be always one which is more "optimal" than the other, so people might start fishing for Castrum instead of Praetorium or, even worse, some for one and some for the other, so we end up with the same annoyances of people leaving straight away again, but in this case for both dungeons.

If every player use the roulettes the way they are designed for and the problem disappears completeley without having to change anything. You don't want to do Castrum? Fine, don't queue. Easy. Will you do that? I guess you won't, so...

[QTEila]

Guess leaving sprouts to die in castrum is the thing now huh? Quite the selfish ones here.