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    Quote Originally Posted by Irruchi View Post
    Sorry the most people aren't running optimal hardware even if it waaaaay overshoots the recommended.
    But you guys in camp faulty hardware sayers, miss the fact that how all others titles and even software and diagnostics don't have faults, yet this one game which is software runs into the same issue for many people.

    Huh.... How interesting... Maybe I should toss out my PC and buy another 20+ systems till I somehow have the special gem of a system you guys supposedly talk about.
    There's even some people who fixed the issue for weeks without the error only for it to show it's ugly messages again.
    So obviously their hardware must have obviously in your eyes gone and took a dump and now they need a new system?

    You guys have some interesting mental gymnastics going on to come to these conclusions that somehow it's a problem with the hardware and software can never cause system instability ever......
    This has nothing to do with "optimal hardware" though. You are completely missing the point here. There is a piece of hardware or multiple pieces INSIDE your computer that is faulty. That is the problem here. Nothing more, nothing less. You need to figure out and find what the faulty piece of hardware INSIDE your computer is and replace it. That's all you need to do and then your issues will go away. Why is that so hard for you to grasp? Genuine question here because you really seem to not understand this at all.
    And you also seem to completely be unable to grasp the fact that it is entirely possible for a single program, regardless of what it is, to cause hardware faults to manifest.

    Again, this has nothing to do with optimal hardware or a godly computer. It is simply a piece of hardware in your current setup that is faulty. GPU, Motherboard, CPU, a combo....you just need to find what it is that is faulty. How hard is that for you to understand? Also, just because these other people found "fixes" doesn't anything because most of them are temporary unless they've actually replaced a part they thought was the cause but then had the issue crop up again which means the part they replaced either wasn't the cause or was just one piece of hardware causing the issue.

    You have some interesting mental gymnastics to believe that DX11 software can cause system instability by itself because spoiler alert: IT CAN'T! It is a 100% proven fact that DX11 software CANNOT cause system instablity unless the hardware in your computer is faulty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaenbyou View Post
    This has nothing to do with "optimal hardware" though. You are completely missing the point here. There is a piece of hardware or multiple pieces INSIDE your computer that is faulty. That is the problem here. Nothing more, nothing less. You need to figure out and find what the faulty piece of hardware INSIDE your computer is and replace it. That's all you need to do and then your issues will go away. Why is that so hard for you to grasp? Genuine question here because you really seem to not understand this at all.
    And you also seem to completely be unable to grasp the fact that it is entirely possible for a single program, regardless of what it is, to cause hardware faults to manifest.

    Again, this has nothing to do with optimal hardware or a godly computer. It is simply a piece of hardware in your current setup that is faulty. GPU, Motherboard, CPU, a combo....you just need to find what it is that is faulty. How hard is that for you to understand? Also, just because these other people found "fixes" doesn't anything because most of them are temporary unless they've actually replaced a part they thought was the cause but then had the issue crop up again which means the part they replaced either wasn't the cause or was just one piece of hardware causing the issue.

    You have some interesting mental gymnastics to believe that DX11 software can cause system instability by itself because spoiler alert: IT CAN'T! It is a 100% proven fact that DX11 software CANNOT cause system instablity unless the hardware in your computer is faulty!
    Software pulling and using that api still can though. and like I said, if I already came up empty handed for any faults in any of my hardware.... I have every right to point to software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irruchi View Post
    Software pulling and using that api still can though. and like I said, if I already came up empty handed for any faults in any of my hardware.... I have every right to point to software.
    Except it can't. Software using DX11 cannot UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES cause system instability without existing hardware faults. The API thing you keep bringing up doesn't matter. It still cannot do what you claim it is doing without existing system instability!
    There is no room for argument on this because it's a simple, undeniable FACT! The sooner you get that through your thick skull, the better. You have absolutely no right to point to software in this case because it's NOT the software. It's YOUR hardware. And just cause you couldn't find any faults doesn't mean your PC is clean. It just means whatever tests you did couldn't find the hardware faults which is entirely possible because it could very well be something whatever tests you did outright cannot find and thus is something you'll have to open up your PC to check the hardware by swapping stuff out and all that fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaenbyou View Post
    Except it can't. Software using DX11 cannot UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES cause system instability without existing hardware faults. The API thing you keep bringing up doesn't matter. It still cannot do what you claim it is doing without existing system instability!
    There is no room for argument on this because it's a simple, undeniable FACT! The sooner you get that through your thick skull, the better. You have absolutely no right to point to software in this case because it's NOT the software. It's YOUR hardware. And just cause you couldn't find any faults doesn't mean your PC is clean. It just means whatever tests you did couldn't find the hardware faults which is entirely possible because it could very well be something whatever tests you did outright cannot find and thus is something you'll have to open up your PC to check the hardware by swapping stuff out and all that fun.
    In fact.
    There is also another type of software fault
    which is often overlooked

    AMD Radeon™ Software may crash or become unresponsive while playing some DirectX® 11 games such as PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds™ with multiple displays connected in extended mode.
    Not hardware fault but driver fault which Drivers are software. But that may solve it for some of the more extreme failures that cause the reinstalls.
    So in essence I was looking in the wrong place thanks to the "faulty" hardware claims.
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    Last edited by Irruchi; 01-24-2022 at 10:04 AM.