*Spoilers* Anyone feel joining Emet would have been better

[Lyth]

My issues with what Venat did have to do with the massive lack of consent on the part of the people she sundered.

Hm. This is a fair point. If you're going to perform a rebellious act in opposition to an established governing body to usurp its power, it's only natural that you run a public opinion poll before committing high treason to make sure that everyone is on board first. Hang on, let's not sacrifice the souls of the lesser mortals without their consent just yet. Let's just wait till we get these poll numbers back before we decide if it's appropriate to stage a coup, first.

You must really dislike Emet, for wanting to sacrifice the souls of all the sundered people of the world to Zodiark for the rest of eternity without their permission. You also probably detest both the Scions and Azem, for killing off Emet and ruining his plan without sanction from the Ascian collective.

Sometimes your time for talking is just up and you have to act. And failing to act is an action in itself. That was the point of Venat's speech in Anamnesis Anyder: Are you all on board with this, knowing that your former friends will forever condemn us for standing up against the Convocation? If so, there's no point discussing it further.

[redheadturk]

Hm. This is a fair point. If you're going to perform a rebellious act in opposition to an established governing body to usurp its power, it's only natural that you run a public opinion poll before committing high treason to make sure that everyone is on board first. Hang on, let's not sacrifice the souls of the lesser mortals without their consent just yet. Let's just wait till we get these poll numbers back before we decide if it's appropriate to stage a coup, first.

You must really dislike Emet, for wanting to sacrifice the souls of all the sundered people of the world to Zodiark for the rest of eternity without their permission. You also probably detest both the Scions and Azem, for killing off Emet and ruining his plan without sanction from the Ascian collective.

Sometimes your time for talking is just up and you have to act. And failing to act is an action in itself. That was the point of Venat's speech in Anamnesis Anyder: Are you all on board with this, knowing that your former friends will forever condemn us for standing up against the Convocation? If so, there's no point discussing it further.

Which is why I consider her actions wrong and repugnant. And I stated clearly that the Ascians were also morally wrong for their actions without consent. What the Scions did was to protect their own lives, which they had every right to do. What Azem did was to attempt to find a third option, and did not harm either side, which was also within their rights.