*Spoilers* Anyone feel joining Emet would have been better

[redheadturk]

I'm well familiar with the passage, having cited it to you on previous occasions. What's the relevance here? The Convocation were short-sighted in assuming that Zodiark was a permanent solution, sure. But the Convocation were convening over the plan to sacrifice non-Amaurotian souls to free their friends. That has nothing to do with addressing the Final Days at all.

I can see why you would consider Venat's faction and all of Amaurot as being morally repugnant under that criteria, but I'm surprised that you aren't so willing to condemn Azem, the Scions, and the rest of humanity as well for acting similarly in their own interests. Venat's faction was acting in defense of the lives and souls of the non-Amaurotians on the star who weren't given the opportunity to consent, in much the same way that Azem and the Scions did in defense of the sundered peoples of Etheirys. I think that if you want to condemn one on that principle, you should be consistent across the board and just condemn them all. Having power to effect change is morally repugnant by those standards.

Legitimate self defense changes the moral calculus. Azem did nothing wrong because what they did harmed none. I do not consider Venat's actions to be self defense, as the Ancients who were acting out of their grief and trauma were not harming anyone. Emet was trying to kill the Scions, and us, that was legitamate self defense.