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As I said before…
Yes, deposing him is a great idea, and surely didn’t set in motion a calamity.

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Did you miss the part…
I must’ve not heard him over Bahamut casting Megaflare and nearly burning the Twelveswood to the ground.

My point is that even with the revelation from the First, it was Graha who ultimately warned us of Black Rose. The fact is that calamities are not easily seen coming, especially by those who don’t have the minute details of the events. It’s foolhardy to believe that a failed calamity would be easy to spot millennia after the fact.

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Hydaelyn never told anybody…
Then why did she summon the star shower and reach out to WoL before it occurred? Why do so if that’s destined to fail, and is supposed to if we go by your theory.

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Black Rose…
The only way it ends up in a history book is if one is writing about our journey on the First, and even then only because a time traveler came to tell us this stuff is important.

As it stands we cannot discern if the events where WoL intervened would have become calamities or not, and using elemental aspects to make that judgement is prone to issues. Whether it’s astral aspected aether fueling Bahamut, Earth Aether causing the ground under the Crystal Tower to crack, or a chemical weapon no one had knowledge of causing worldwide devastation, calamities were incredibly difficult to see coming. By design.

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As I said…
Minfilia only lost her body on the trip to the First, and she and Krile both showed the same signs of Venats possession. Krile herself even references this, saying she’s not as good at it as Minfilia.

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It didn't backfire at all...
No it very clearly backfired. The Flood was only stopped by Minfilia. If not for her the First would have been lost like the 13th.



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She knew…
So she’s not only able to manipulate thousands to do exactly what she wants them to, but she’s an expert on aeronautics using aether based propulsion systems. Hell why even bother having the Sharlayans build the Ragnarök, or having the Loporrits erase arch and develop space travel, she knew it all from the start!

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That doesn't…
Yes, after we killed Lahabrea and foiled two of the Ascians attempts to cause a Light based calamity, he decided killing us was a necessity to prevent any further issues. Remember, Mitron and Loghrif were the ones holding back the Light on the First, why would they bother doing that if when they are manipulating events to push things further towards the Light? Because it’s a matter of timing.



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There's a difference…
I think you’re being unfair in your description of events.