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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I mean, she also did it for her people. She just had a different method.


    Agree to disagree there.
    How exactly did she do it for her people? She went behind their backs, kept secrets from them and then ripped their lives from them, tearing them apart and them losing their entire memories of who they once were. If that was her "doing it for her own people," then shes just a sadist.

    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Middy doesn't wake up until after the Tower is sent back. The Biggs in the story muses that removing it may have been why he woke up. And Middy does ask about it. It's when they don't disappear and then he wakes up and says he will help them and give them knowledge that they start considering they may be able to make something more of their current reality. Cid survived and started the idea. There's nothing spelling this out, but it's possible something just broke in him when he lost all of us. So maybe he could have found a way and his heart wasn't in it anymore. But that doesn't mean everyone 200 years after him had to agree to the plan and not see other ways. That's why it reads to me that there really wasn't a future to look forward to. Just like with the Ancients before they summoned Zodiark.And I don't see many arguing that the Ancients were wrong for the initial summoning of Zodiark and replenishing the planet. Both groups were in a bad situation and tried to take a path to change that.
    Sadly, there are people in this very thread bashing the Ancients for resorting to sacrifice and summoning Zodiark to end the Final Days. Doesnt make much sense but its there. As for Ironworks, In the end, we dont know what would have happened exactly had they waited. But yes, to them there was no future and they were willing to sacrifice billions of people if it meant bringing back their loved ones. Its not any different from the ancient's sacrifices.Also, i dont believe they exactly got the entire world's consent on the action either. Did many people agree to it? Sure. But i dont recall it saying everyone agreed, just the group that they had at the time.In fact, isnt it stated they faced heavy opposition for the plan from various people?
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    Last edited by KizuyaKatogami; 01-21-2022 at 04:25 AM.