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  1. #31
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    Alacran's Avatar
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    There is overlap, and that is just how Final Fantasy works, and even aiming and scouting are related in FFXIV. That is why I think the next scouting job could be ranged physical. But when I think scouting, dancer just seems so wrong when you consider it's a very "attention-seeking" job.
    I honestly feel any job that would use a ranged physical gameplay style is simply an aiming job, no need to have it mixed into scouting.

    That being said, a melee centric Ranger would make the most sense to me, however tying to a simple sword style Aragorn archetype seems a bit to to easy. (mind you i would love it personally but understand others may find it redundant.)

    The idea of double voulge using Serge (Chrono Trigger), Darth Maul (SW), Zidane (FFIX) weapon type is also intriguing & one i would gladly welcome, what it's job would be, i have no idea though.

    Reaper opened the door for a great many original & unique job & weapon styles & i truly am excited for what's to come.

    Excluding the idea of Viking & Berserker...

    We already have Warrior & a Viking without berserker skill & a skill name already in game, is just to unoriginal, redundant, & lazy.
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    Last edited by Alacran; 01-19-2022 at 07:31 AM.

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  2. #32
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    Sililos Sanura
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    Sophia
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I think we need another job or two for the Maiming or Striking token's. isnt scouting (And Aiming) bloated enough as is?

    (Only DPS tokens shown)
    Aiming: ARC, BRD, MCH, DNC
    Maiming: LNC, DRG, RPR
    Scouting: ROG, NIN.
    Striking: PGL, MNK, SAM

    Hmm actually I take that back, I could of sworn there were more Jobs on Scouting, Guess its just that Aiming is overloaded compared to the others. Yeah im all for Scouting getting another.

    Late Allagan gear is a good example why Dancer belongs in scouting. They have the same armor as a Tank here which doesn't fit the theme but the Scouting and i think Maiming? Tokens are far more fitting appearance wise.
    Striking/Scouting:
    Aiming/Fending:
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  3. #33
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    Ultaniku's Avatar
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    Jojo Ryder
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    Famfrit
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    Warrior Lv 97
    I will say what I say in every job thread. Pirate job with a sword and pistol. Corsair, if you will. I need a job similar to that, a very big mighty need.
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  4. #34
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    I don't know what kind of job it would be, but I want its role to be physical ranged.

    And no, scouting does not fit dancer. Thematically, dancer is like the opposite of rogue/ninja, and that's what the idea of scouting is associated with. Dancer passes as aiming just by having a ranged weapon.
    Wait, so, first you say you want a physical ranged scouting job, and then you say Dancer couldn't have been Scouting because they are physical ranged?

    You are essentially agreeing. Dancer should've been in Scouting, and all these calls for "pirate" or "corsair" or whatever else could've/should've been Aiming since they completely fit in with the them of, y'know, needing to aim.
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  5. #35
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    Cynric Zerr
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    I want to say Puppetmaster so badly, but they just can't seem to get pet jobs right.
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  6. #36
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    Ultaniku's Avatar
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    Jojo Ryder
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    Famfrit
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    Warrior Lv 97
    Gimme Jack Sparrow as a theme who uses a cutlass in close range while peppering in pistol fire. They can also use alcohol as buffs. I’d never play any other job.
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    Last edited by Ultaniku; 01-28-2022 at 09:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    I honestly feel any job that would use a ranged physical gameplay style is simply an aiming job, no need to have it mixed into scouting.

    That being said, a melee centric Ranger would make the most sense to me, however tying to a simple sword style Aragorn archetype seems a bit to to easy. (mind you i would love it personally but understand others may find it redundant.)

    The idea of double voulge using Serge (Chrono Trigger), Darth Maul (SW), Zidane (FFIX) weapon type is also intriguing & one i would gladly welcome, what it's job would be, i have no idea though.

    Reaper opened the door for a great many original & unique job & weapon styles & i truly am excited for what's to come.

    Excluding the idea of Viking & Berserker...

    We already have Warrior & a Viking without berserker skill & a skill name already in game, is just to unoriginal, redundant, & lazy.
    Zidane's double sword would be nice, but that would be melee, I think, so that might not be for a while, even if they planned for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Wait, so, first you say you want a physical ranged scouting job, and then you say Dancer couldn't have been Scouting because they are physical ranged?
    Uh, no, reread what I posted again. There are different sentences there, so don't mix them together.
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  8. #38
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    FFXVI meets Devil Trigger meets harmonixer meets Terra Branford...






    Originally I made a thread on it being dark theme'd (demon-like Harmonixer from Shadow Hearts), but given Reaper, AND FFXVI, I think focusing far more on a primal / esper like vibe would be better. Here it's not a bleach form or temporary cool mode, it's 'the thing' you're doing. Perhaps low levels you're like late reaper / the above gif with titan fists, but there is a relatively early turning point where the mechanics get folded into 'forms', and in those forms is your general existence. Transformation based jobs will always have some gear hiding issues, which for people who want that (me) that is totally fine. Though I do think picking a cool weapon(s) that fit in the form would be a great way to add customization for players.

    Weapon plural since there is off hand, which may even be separated more like Paladin- even if the off hand is just for visual customizations (changes looks, dye maybe changing some color vibes, etc). I'm not dead set on a weapon but one suggestion was using the scarf like Nezha has, or Tenne scarf as I saw another reference it, while also including some other diverse options like cloaks and such.

    The idea being they're mold-able (tis cloth lol), so you might fit them easier to fit with whatever the forms were imagined to be (if it was say a sword you get pigeon holed a little bit in your designs), they have a fiber like sense so transformations could use Bayonetta like visuals as the object's color is used in part with the animation of it surrounding you. May also think Dr. Strange's cloak or Spawn's cloak. This type of weapon would also give them an opportunity to have a fairly obvious silhouette even when weapons are stored, differentiate the scouting armor greatly from Ninja (as there is a whole extra element), and could also allow for a lot of other freedom in weapon attacks. Like think of Voldemort in the last harry potter movie where he sort of uses his robes as bullets at harry (dark energy). Using a weapon through the transformation can also have a nice meaning to relics, since otherwise it would be silly to have a weapon you worked hard on just so you can never see it lol.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 01-20-2022 at 03:01 PM.

  9. #39
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    Leih'to Molkoh
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    Zodiark
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    I think the next scouting will either be a whip job (like Seven in type-0), or a mystic knight. Oooor...a mystic knight with a whip.
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  10. #40
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    I want to say Puppetmaster so badly, but they just can't seem to get pet jobs right.
    I think the word is "won't". They have intentionally gone backwards. Summoner is less of a pet job than ever, but at least it's more like a summoner now, though it could use some work.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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