The Alliance roulette is unbearable

[Kolaina]

Thought I'd pop in to see the aftermath, so I'm surprised this thread just stopped after I said that. I'm impressed.

Lol at you thinking you won the thread. Regardless, you can report people for gearing down for queue. You can even report someone for logging in the game. You can write a report for any reason you want. Doesn’t make it valid. Doesn’t mean the GM’s are going to take action. Just because you call it griefing doesn’t make it true. Show me where it is against the ToS to gear down. It’s griefing how? It doesnt take away from the random chance you yourself gets put into any one of the alliance raids. It truly only limits which one the person undergearing gets. You, yourself, are still left to chance. That person didn’t change what raid you got, or when you queued, and who you got paired with.
I’m still LoLing inside at the part i quoted. Good one buddy

[OskarXCI]

I have been avoiding the Alliance raid roulette since they made CT mandatory for the MSQ. I rather get EXP from other sources, even if it's less efficient.

I would start doing the roulette again if they moved the CT raids to the Main Scenario roulette instead. Will never happen but one can dream.

I just wish they would give the other raids more weight in determining where people, who queue through the roulette, will be distributed. Several of my FC buddies had trouble getting the Ivalice raids for the first time even though they sat in queue for over an hour. This happens because the roulette is there to make content pop for people that queue directly for something, in most cases for CT since it's required for MSQ. We managed to get the Ivalice raids to pop relatively quickly (less than 2 min) after we made a premade party with 6 people but you shouldn't have to do this just to experience the story at your own pace, solo.

It reminds me of how the Frontline roulette was before they changed it into a daily rotation. All maps were included in the roulette but the sheer amount of people that queued directly for Fields of Glory (Shatter) made it near impossible to get Seal Rock (Seize) or Borderland Ruins (Secure) to pop. Why only Shatter? It was the latest map and had the reputation of being the only one active so the majority of people never bothered with the other maps. The achievements on the other maps were effectively out of reach.

[Seera1024]

I have been avoiding the Alliance raid roulette since they made CT mandatory for the MSQ. I rather get EXP from other sources, even if it's less efficient.

I would start doing the roulette again if they moved the CT raids to the Main Scenario roulette instead. Will never happen but one can dream.

I just wish they would give the other raids more weight in determining where people, who queue through the roulette, will be distributed. Several of my FC buddies had trouble getting the Ivalice raids for the first time even though they sat in queue for over an hour. This happens because the roulette is there to make content pop for people that queue directly for something, in most cases for CT since it's required for MSQ. We managed to get the Ivalice raids to pop relatively quickly (less than 2 min) after we made a premade party with 6 people but you shouldn't have to do this just to experience the story at your own pace, solo.

It reminds of how the Frontline roulette was before they changed it into a daily rotation. All maps were included in the roulette but the sheer amount of people that queued directly for Fields of Glory (Shatter) made it near impossible to get Seal Rock (Seize) or Borderland Ruins (Secure) to pop. Why only Shatter? It was the latest map and had the reputation of being the only one active so the majority of people never bothered with the other maps. The achievements on the other maps were effectively out of reach.

They can't move the CT raids to the MSQ roulette.

CT requires 24 members. MSQ requires 8 man. CT would never fill in anywhere near a timely manner as the game will constantly generate MSQ parties until there were enough people queuing directly for that specific CT raid to push the number needed from the roulettes to 8 or fewer.

[Yuella]

Mentor Roulette can mix and match 4,8 and 24-man content
The final guildhest is 8-man and it's included in the Guildhest Roulette

[technole]

I personally don't mind either way, seem to get Dun Scaith more often than not, then Orbonne, and sometimes the Yorha raids show up, and that's cool too.

Ivalice raids are required to unlock Bozja, they will show up at-times and that's really the meat and bones of keeping the roulette diverse.

LoTA can be a meme still, sometimes I feel like I should have the popcorn ready for it. Mentors fighting each other to one-up 'advice' things, to people just being weird.

[UkcsAlias]

I think OP is imagining a problem that doesn't exist. I've been doing lots of Alliance Roulettes since EW dropped while leveling a couple new jobs, and on my mains. I get the same 2 or 3 roulettes all day every day regardless if I'm lvl 60 in lvl 60 gear, lvl 70 in lvl 70 gear, lvl 80 in lvl 80 gear, or lvl 90 in lvl 90 gear.

The problem is that a few players can decide for a lot of players which raid shows up.

If there are 90 players at lvl 90, and 10 at lvl 50. You might expect 14 people to get added to the 50. But, those 10 might not always get matched together as its unlikely they all queue at the same time. In the worst case, each player will take the max number of lvl 90s with them. In this case it would mean 230 lvl 90 players were even needed. And this is closer to the practical result due to a relatively low number being in the queue.

It obviously gets worse when some of those 90s are also going to force themselve to 50. As it just makes the pool of available 90 players smaller, and mainly grabs the roles away that are already quite limited in the player pool.

During a new expansion this might be less of an issue as a lot of people want to play the new content, and therefor there are enough people in the queue anyway. But especialy on difficult stuff, this quickly drops because people just want to quickly tick off their roulette. And for that the higher difficulty dungeons rarely matter for the bonus. And sure, the lvl 50 raid might give a bit less. It still gives alot more for the effort because the reward gets scaled up for them.

But a side note, i think that instead of using a job level and deciding an ilvl cap based on that, the MSQ level should always be considered. A lvl 80 job might still be in HW after all. Punishing those players shouldnt be done (they can simply still be considered only lvl 60 on that).

[Spiralgaia]

Might as well call it 'LotA' roulette.

For the last TWO weeks all I got every time (on different characters) was LotA. Not even Syrcus or WoD, LotA.

I have seen people wipe at Atomos.

Every time I see someone's HP suddenly popping up the moment we zone into LotA, I feel genuine DISDAIN.

As others have said, I genuinely hope there'd be SOME way to make it actually be a 'roulette'.

[weebtext]

I wanna live in whatever wacko dimension some of you are in where you only get NieR raids.

[Seera1024]

Mentor Roulette can mix and match 4,8 and 24-man content
The final guildhest is 8-man and it's included in the Guildhest Roulette

That's because mentors queue in solo into that queue and it has everything in it.

The other roulettes are different. Why else would the 4 man trials be in leveling queue instead of trials queue for another example of the queues having to have equal party members to work.

How long does it take that 8 man guildheist take to fill if you solo queue into it? I'd imagine it takes a long while as the other guildheists would fill a lot quicker.

[Xuled]

More like it's only bearable if you get CT. I'll gladly keep taking off my gear to get the more optimal tomes and/or EXP. Thanks!