The Alliance roulette is unbearable

[Iscah]

You’re not wrong, but the difference is we all have the option to choose to “level down” which raids we might get by how the system is built.

That is exactly why people are frustrated with the system. You have the option to level down, but they don't have the option to level up.

If you want to do Crystal Tower, you're able to manipulate your ilevel so you can get the duty you want AND get all the benefits of running the roulette.

But the person who wants something other than CT isn't able to do that. If they want the roulette rewards, they have to take the likely chance of getting CT again.

So saying "just queue for the raid you want directly" doesn't work. The roulette system is currently rigged to favour your preferences and give you roulette rewards while guaranteeing the duty you want, and yet you're telling other people "all you need to do to get the duty you want is give up your roulette rewards".

[kaynide]

That is exactly why people are frustrated with the system. You have the option to level down, but they don't have the option to level up.

If you want to do Crystal Tower, you're able to manipulate your ilevel so you can get the duty you want AND get all the benefits of running the roulette.

But the person who wants something other than CT isn't able to do that. If they want the roulette rewards, they have to take the likely chance of getting CT again.

So saying "just queue for the raid you want directly" doesn't work. The roulette system is currently rigged to favour your preferences and give you roulette rewards while guaranteeing the duty you want, and yet you're telling other people "all you need to do to get the duty you want is give up your roulette rewards".

That's kind of my point to fixing it. It is designed to suit the way I want to do it, so it's unfair to say I'm rigging or otherwise cheating it. I'm doing exactly what is allowed within the parameters of the game. It's been this way since 3.0. If the devs didn't like how this is going, they would have fixed it.

The solution as I said is to make it so it doesn't matter which raid you get as far as overall difficulty/length- if the people and devs want the change it's simple to implement. Them not fixing it suggests they don't care players do like I do.

What I'm doing isn't any different than simply not unlocking the raids entirely- are we saying people (like my wife) should HAVE to unlock them at appropriate levels? I think not.

Moreover, I readily admit to doing this- a lot of people would not feel comfortable doing that. At the very least, I am being honest and opening myself to displeasure of others. I accept that, but I also do not think what I'm doing is wrong.

tl;dr: People should keep posting about this politely in a feedback section if they want it to change. Ranting or being mad at people playing the game as it is made doesn't help.

[Iscah]

That's kind of my point to fixing it. It is designed to suit the way I want to do it, so it's unfair to say I'm rigging or otherwise cheating it. I'm doing exactly what is allowed within the parameters of the game. It's been this way since 3.0. If the devs didn't like how this is going, they would have fixed it.

I'm not saying you're cheating, I'm saying it's unfair of you – as someone who is fortunate to be getting everything you want while doing the roulette – to tell other people that for them to get what they want from the roulette they just need to not do the roulette, as if that's a solution.

[ReynTime]

I really wish there were a way to scale the rewards. If you were to queue at 80 in 50 gear, for example, you’d get a worthless reward in exchange for your worthless commitment.

If you wore 80 gear on an 80 character, though, you’d open yourself to the full reward no matter what you actually ended up running (assuming everything were unlocked for that level.) Perhaps even an additional bonus if you cleared something uncommonly cleared.

That's now their vision for non high-end content in this game. As Yoshida himself stated, 24+ player raids are designed so bad players can be carried by the ones who put effort. The majority of the game's pve content doesn't reward effort nor does it punishes below average performance.

[Menriq]

I've seen this several times more since early release. Everytime I did I just dropped a "Lol" or "Nice HP" in the party or alliance chat.

Not sure why people haven't figured out your ilevel is snapshotted at the time you queue up. You can lower your gear, queue, and then go back to regular gear and no one would ever notice the difference.

[Toutatis]

I would keep it simple: make two roulettes, one for CT which would ensure that people who are trying to progress MSQ do not wait for too long to advance the story and one for the optional raids. Like dungeons, ARs could also give extra tomes of whatever is appropriate based on their level.

As for suggestions such as having your gear match your character’s level, it wouldn’t work: not only it is now pretty much impossible not to over level even with multiple jobs with all the xp boosters, raids and gear (save MB) remain locked behind story progression. I have an alt that has just had access to the lvl 70 gear in Rhalgr's Reach and the Ivalice raids despite having 2 jobs at lvl 90, 1 at 82 and 3 in the mid 70s. Getting lvl 90 gear at this stage would be useless (and needlessly expensive) as I am still limited to lvl 70 content.

[DawnAskham]

Complaining about humans taking the path of least resistance when the differences are as large as they are is just silly.

The real problem is the difficulty / time to complete differences between the various sets of alliance raids, coupled with the roulette providing the same reward regardless of which one is completed.

And I don't see any solutions absent splitting out the raid sets into separate roulette queues or rebalancing everything to be of similar time / difficulty.

[Kolaina]

That is exactly why people are frustrated with the system. You have the option to level down, but they don't have the option to level up.

Is there not the option to get things closer to your level when you queue? I forget what it’s called but it should be in the same list as running stuff at mom ilvl etc. I’d assume that’d help

[Avatre]

Is there not the option to get things closer to your level when you queue? I forget what it’s called but it should be in the same list as running stuff at mom ilvl etc. I’d assume that’d help

IIRC, that only works when queuing as a full group, and only for light party stuff.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Is there not the option to get things closer to your level when you queue? I forget what it’s called but it should be in the same list as running stuff at mom ilvl etc. I’d assume that’d help

Do you mean limited leveling roulette? It picks one of dungeons at the same to 7 level lower accessible to the lowest level member in the party.

That option only works for 4-man premade leveling roulette though. It won't do anything for solo to 3 player queueing together.