Where is all the content?

[Velnora]

Oh, I agree, the game has some issues I'd like to see addressed (glamour, having to close windows to switch crafting classes, others)... but the formula they've been following has resulted in an MMO that continues to grow, with no signs of stopping. Doesn't mean they shouldn't try new things ever, but you not liking how things are done doesn't = problem. No reason to play as content releases? What? Tell that to the many people that stay subbed because there's still tons of things they haven't done yet/the people who resub just for the new content... You partly acknowledged it, but being a game where you don't feel obligated to burn yourself out to stay relevant has only been in the games' favor, not a detriment.

EDIT: I (and clearly, many others) enjoy doing content when it's still fresh and new to everyone. We're all making the same dumb mistakes, we're discovering things at the same time. The first week of a patch is always my favorite because everyone is on equal footing, and nothing has been spoiled yet.

The MMO market is crap right now. That doesn't mean this game's design and direction is the sole reason for it's growth.

[Mirhd]

The MMO market is crap right now. That doesn't mean this game's design and direction is the sole reason for it's growth.

It hasn't been great for years, but what is your point? That this is the least crappy of them all? Not even remotely accurate, and FFXIV is clearly doing something right, because other MMOs that have come and gone (and there have been A LOT, lets not pretend here) and crashed and burned for multiple reasons... yet this one keeps going.

EDIT for your edit: Except it clearly is the reason. The WoW exodus only affected things this year. FFXIV has had large increases for every expansion and its been consistent, it's just this year that has been an outlier which no one could have planned for. It was a perfect storm.

[Velnora]

It hasn't been great for years, but what is your point? That this is the least crappy of them all? Not even remotely accurate, and FFXIV is clearly doing something right, because other MMOs that have come and gone (and there have been A LOT, lets not pretend here) and crashed and burned for multiple reasons... yet this one keeps going.

Yes, it is the least crappy of them all. It's the best while standing on a pile of crap.

[Mirhd]

Yes, it is the least crappy of them all. It's the best while standing on a pile of crap.

Thanks for coming out and saying what I figured you were saying, and reminding me of who I was talking to. Almost didn't notice because of the avatar change. No point trying to converse with someone so disingenuous, given what I've seen from you in other threads.

[Velnora]

Thanks for coming out and saying what I figured you were saying, and reminding me of who I was talking to. Almost didn't notice because of the avatar change. No point trying to converse with someone so disingenuous, given what I've seen from you in other threads.

What is disingenous? What part isn't true? The MMO market has been crap for years, so suggesting this games rise is solely based on it's merits IS disingenuous. Nice deflection though.

[Mirhd]

What is disingenous? What part isn't true? The MMO market has been crap for years, so suggesting this games rise is solely based on it's merits IS disingenuous. Nice deflection though.

You use "deflection" a lot, and I don't think you understand what that actually means.

Yes, it is the least crappy of them all. It's the best while standing on a pile of crap.

This isn't a fact, it's an opinion, and a non-argument. FFXIV is hardly the "lesser of all evils", and that fact that you keep pushing it as such IS disingenuous. I'm also willing to bet I've played MMOs longer than you, and experienced some of a best and worst there is to offer. This is so far from the latter, but keep wielding that edge, I guess.

[Velnora]

You use "deflection" a lot, and I don't think you understand what that actually means.



This isn't a fact, it's an opinion, and a non-argument. FFXIV is hardly the "lesser of all evils", and that fact that you keep pushing it as such IS disingenuous. I'm also willing to bet I've played MMOs longer than you, and experienced some of a best and worst there is to offer. This is so far from the latter, but keep wielding that edge, I guess.

Obviously it's an opinion. A non-argument? Lmao. It's just as much an opinion as your "FFXIV is the lesser of all evils". The irony of pushing your opinion as fact, while calling someone elses a "non-argument". Lay off the ego.

And no, I do not use deflection "A lot". Also, learn what disingenuous means.

[Ardeth]

I'm not saying the game is meritless and it doesn't deserve its success, but it's been playing the same hand since Heavensward. There's gonna be 12 raids, 12 savages raids, 3 24 man raids and some from of relic grind. Oh and also the sprinkling of dungeons every story patch. We know this. To me it's just stale. Also I agree that part of it's success as of recently is Blizzards lack of caring for it's playerbase. Whenever the next Wow expansion comes out 10 million people will jump on it like flies on a turd. But recently that power has diminished. Honestly there needs to be two big mmos. I don't want this game to have free reign at the top. We the players need the competition. To say otherwise is lunacy.

[Jojoya]

Yes, it is the least crappy of them all. It's the best while standing on a pile of crap.

It's got to be doing something right when content creators from another MMO who were visibly stressed out over that game come here and are suddenly happy and having a good time.

If it was just another pile of crap (even a least objectionable one), they wouldn't stick around. They'd be streaming other games since there are hundreds of games out there to choose from.

If you're not enjoying it, then you're not enjoying it. Everyone has different tastes. That doesn't make it a crappy game.

[Ardeth]

well good for you i guess?
maybe its just quiet on EU servers. but i dont wanna test my luck with 18USD and still not meet friends :/

Speaking of friends all of mine unironically abandoned this game for Classic Wow. My friends list is empty unless I want to roll up an Orc. And no offense to this games playerbase, but I'm not being showered with friendship opportunities. That is unless I abandon my ability to be honest and shill with them. Personally I can't stand this community.