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  1. #251
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonwitch View Post
    now that the story was mildly butchered, im not sure why i'd want to stick around. sure, there's a new story coming on the horizon, but now i'm cautious as to get too invested with the way they handled EW.

    If you don't have a friend group in this game, or aren't interested in savages , there will always be nothing to do. I thought bozja would be a casual content savior last expansion but it wasn't. I did some savages at 80 and didn't really care for them. got a few clears but most of the time a static broke up or just quit. i think perhaps ive had enough of this game after 2 years. its amazing that there are some 2014 players around! idk how they do it. i've never managed to make any friend groups in 2 years.
    To each their own. Ive been here since HW. Ive ALWAYS had something to do. Even now, there is plenty to do besides Savage.
    And when I do everything I care about, I have an ALT I can do it all over again with. Great way to make Money
    And Ive made quite alot of Friend Groups.
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  2. #252
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    None of this is true, literally every piece of gear save from the raid tier is re-used and now just dyable. Please do your research before attempting to state facts.
    Wilful ignorance or trolling. Can't even tell anymore rofl, but I'll bite.

    Garlond Tools is a great resource, honey. Maybe you should use it before making these statements...? The poster you quoted wasn't wrong (they didn't mention Tower of Zot or Ktisis, but that's obvious). The only thing you're sorta right about is some crafted pieces sharing appearances with previous sets, but that is nothing new and is par for the course with MMOs. It's bound to happen at some point, and the work load would be heavier (and take longer to release) if they never reused some assets. Saying that everything is reused just makes you look like a fool.
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  3. #253
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    This expansion really feels to me like a rehash of pretty much everything we've had before.

    I also am well aware this opinion will invoke the ire of the much lauded "community".
    Well you posted bait, what do you expect esp when you are wrong on most counts.



    Gearsets
    In this new expansion we have one set of "new" gear, which is the AF gear for each class. Everything else is re-used from either SHB or STB, some of which isn't even dyeable. Where has the effort been in this? The new crafted gear is a reuse of PVP gear which the majority of people didn't even like.
    No change from past expansions here, I think Stormblood was the first to reign in the overabundance of gearsets every 2 levels. Reskinning older gearsets for white quality, and dungeon drops.

    Music
    Fate bosses still have the ARR music... Why?
    Why change? it's minor optional content used for leveling and the earning toys.

    Raid tier doesn't have a second theme.
    Why? Not needed, having a few new scores for the raid is good, having a new score for every version of every fight is exsessive.

    Lot's of reused music throughout the expansion, the new map "Dungeon" hasn't even changed even though it's a completely different lore based area.
    Here's a hint, every song in every Final Fantasy Game has reused music from previous Final Fantasy Games, it's not an issue, hells every song in the game is a call back to something from another game.

    Zones
    Ultima Thule is the smallest zone we have EVER had based on walkable terrain. Labyrinthos is also tiny compared to the likes of Heavenswards areas or even Stormblood. The Ruby sea? All zones in EW have at LEAST half of the area available to explore. The Mare Lamentorum was hailed as a completely new world for us to explore and yet it's as big as both areas of Uldah put together.
    This is a non complaint, each area is big enough for the content it contains and the set dressing, they don't have to recreate tatooine for each new zone. (Star Wars Galaxies an early Sony MMORPG use to make worlds so big it could take days to cross them, besides a few random spawns between cities, there was nothing but an endless walk unless you used a shuttle service. It was a terrible design choice in 2003 and it is still a terrible design choice.

    Voice acting
    Now I am not going to disagree much here, as I would love to see the game fully voice acted ala Star Wars The Old Republic, but my hope is that they would start with VO the MSQ and all Cut Scenes first, then if they could all optional content. BTW Raids are optional content.

    Server issues
    Need I say more? The excuse of covid doesn't fit when I can easily go onto a server hosting company and pay for a server to be setup to the same level as the servers which Square use in their datacenters in the EU. With almost 24 hour deployable time. This can easily be seen
    So much fail, do you have a degree in this? I do. And no for an MMO with a custom engine like FFXIV, and WOW they can't just willy nilly use someone elses servers to host the game. They have to order custom servers, with exacting specifications, and then they have to install their own custom Server OS (Usually based in Linix, not sure what SE uses) Their servers have to play well on Sony's Network and on the regular Internet. You can't use sign up for a Amazon Server and do that. Nor would Square or any large company use a service like Amazon to host their games. ESP when Amazon has a record of stealing code and content.

    Also the biggest issue with ordering Servers right now, is the lack of Usable Silicon, its a real world issue that is starting to affect many industries.

    Story issues
    All your opinions, and most of us disagree, if you dislike the game, you can go play something else, you might be happier.


    Overall, I absolutely adore this game and it's been a complete passion of mine for near enough a decade now. ...
    I would say you have lost the passion, and should leave, because you clearly are becoming Toxic.
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  4. #254
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    So much fail, do you have a degree in this? I do. And no for an MMO with a custom engine like FFXIV, and WOW they can't just willy nilly use someone elses servers to host the game. They have to order custom servers, with exacting specifications, and then they have to install their own custom Server OS (Usually based in Linix, not sure what SE uses) Their servers have to play well on Sony's Network and on the regular Internet. You can't use sign up for a Amazon Server and do that. Nor would Square or any large company use a service like Amazon to host their games. ESP when Amazon has a record of stealing code and content.

    Also the biggest issue with ordering Servers right now, is the lack of Usable Silicon, its a real world issue that is starting to affect many industries.
    This game has had server issues since launch. Blaming the shortages is a convenient excuse for the present, how ever it does not change the past issues that are just hidden behind skill stacks vs skill durations. The fact that this was done means they have no intention of fixing the issues with the servers just adding more so that more people can get online. How ever by the time they go through with the plan most of the players will have quit as the queues are already getting smaller and smaller every day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    All your opinions, and most of us disagree, if you dislike the game, you can go play something else, you might be happier.


    I would say you have lost the passion, and should leave, because you clearly are becoming Toxic.
    This is toxic, telling some one to leave is more toxic and giving an opinion about obvious problems with the game. Besides Yoshi P has already told us all to go play other games, and that they respect our time. Really it is just an nice sounding excuse for a lack of content.
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  5. #255
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    This game has had server issues since launch. Blaming the shortages is a convenient excuse for the present, how ever it does not change the past issues that are just hidden behind skill stacks vs skill durations. The fact that this was done means they have no intention of fixing the issues with the servers just adding more so that more people can get online. How ever by the time they go through with the plan most of the players will have quit as the queues are already getting smaller and smaller every day.



    This is toxic, telling some one to leave is more toxic and giving an opinion about obvious problems with the game. Besides Yoshi P has already told us all to go play other games, and that they respect our time. Really it is just an nice sounding excuse for a lack of content.
    Just practically like every other game then. The sillicon shortage is what is known as an exacerbation. These problems were always going to occur. Albeit not as significantly if practically every industry wasn't impacted by it. Why else would they add servers in both Stormblood and Shadowbringers, yet not decide to do such for inarguably their most anticipated expansion to date? The issues with the servers are largely attributed to being at capacity. You will only be increasing that capacity by adding new servers.

    Yes saying you're free to play other games and enjoy a wider variety of games is called respecting your time and not wanting you to be enslaved by the game through monumental and pointless grinds. I for one enjoy knowing that I can take a couple of weeks, enjoy new release games and then return afterwards and simply pick back up
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  6. #256
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    I dunno if they work anything like our company a new server must go through extreme IT security protocols and must meet already existing requirements. In addition to that, this would be a new supplier. Do you have any idea how approaching a new supplier could be so painful like this?

    Most companies have something we call anit corruption, anti bribery and anti fraud acts in palce when it comes to new suppliers. You cannot just chose whomever you want off the shelf. You need to have a competition. Contact at least 2-3 suppliers to ensure you are compliant (e.g.: you need to be able to proof that you made all the effort to ensure there is proper segregation of duties, and no conflict of interest). You also go through heavy negotiations for contracting, not just the price, but the length of the contract, the management of potential issues, the management of disputes.

    Procurement has not just fraud risk but also reputational risk. If your supplier is bad and fucks up, the players won't care. What we will see is that something is not working and reputation will drop...

    Then if you manage to get a new supplier, you will need approval from 2-3 level depending on company. But before that they also need to show that they meet due diligence. This may also take time.

    I also would not downplay the shortage of supply... it makes everything more difficult as the supplier can push prices higher because they know that their products/ services are in need, and if FFXIV team inside Squere has a budget that cannot allow this for the year, again, this will take many approvals before a higher priced supplier can be contracted... Also these prices are not contracted for 1 month. The conracts can vary from 1-10 years... and sometimes its really hard to negotiate new prices with the current supplier, and if you just leave whenever you are over the "shortage" you break contract and pay heavy fees...

    I am sure they are looking for something as we got recent news that they finally can introduce new centers. But I can fully understand why it takes time.
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  7. #257
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Just practically like every other game then. The sillicon shortage is what is known as an exacerbation. These problems were always going to occur. Albeit not as significantly if practically every industry wasn't impacted by it. Why else would they add servers in both Stormblood and Shadowbringers, yet not decide to do such for inarguably their most anticipated expansion to date? The issues with the servers are largely attributed to being at capacity. You will only be increasing that capacity by adding new servers.
    This had nothing to do with the issues I brought up. The amount of data centers and servers for people to log into has no relation to ping issues, total server space issues which limit things like glamour storage, and armory storage. Do you think they actually got rid of belts because they don't show up on your characters? They did it to address a complaint that we did not have enough slots for weapons and rings for the number of classes available. They got rid of belts and reallocated the inventory space due to server space problems. It's a big reason why we don't have instanced housing like other games are able to do, why we have limits on glamour plates and other things.
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  8. #258
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    This had nothing to do with the issues I brought up. The amount of data centers and servers for people to log into has no relation to ping issues, total server space issues which limit things like glamour storage, and armory storage. Do you think they actually got rid of belts because they don't show up on your characters? They did it to address a complaint that we did not have enough slots for weapons and rings for the number of classes available. They got rid of belts and reallocated the inventory space.
    Yes and the increase of server space / capacity has very little to do with the issue you're outlining in that case - That is more of an issue for programming. Which need I might add rewriting all of their code or very large segments of it would be an ongoing endeavour if they ever elect to address it. - and no you just tried to dismiss the issue as if it were never a valid reason in the first place.

    Objectively speaking belts had no place existing in the game. They have very little glamour functionality and the removal of them would require reflecting the formula and how older content scales. In other words they would need to address each individual expansion and encounters to ensure they're still adequately tuned with the removal of entire gear spaces. Something that is entirely a lot more pragmatic to do when they're already readdressing the formula and doing downscaling for numbers. Sorry bud but that's just called 'killing 2 birds with 1 stone' - How they increase it is irrelevant. The fact remains they increased it without compromising functionality
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    The biggest problem with this game is outside of fomo items from events and such there is absolutely no reason to do content as it releases. Absolutely none. If you wait until the next expansion comes out you can get the best gear from that previous expansion easier and faster than they did with it was current. It lacks a reason outside of story to really want to keep up with the Jones's. Every expansion is exactly the same. It's been the same since Heavensward. The best gear is cheap as hell once the new expansion is live. Seriously if you don't care about bleeding edge content or pvp who cares? That's the issue, but on the flip side you have Wow where not playing feels like you're neglecting your spouse. We need a good middle ground and neither game has achieved it yet.
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  10. #260
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    The biggest problem with this game
    Oh, I agree, the game has some issues I'd like to see addressed (glamour, having to close windows to switch crafting classes, others)... but the formula they've been following has resulted in an MMO that continues to grow, with no signs of stopping. Doesn't mean they shouldn't try new things ever, but you not liking how things are done doesn't = problem. No reason to play as content releases? What? Tell that to the many people that stay subbed because there's still tons of things they haven't done yet/the people who resub just for the new content... You partly acknowledged it, but being a game where you don't feel obligated to burn yourself out to stay relevant has only been in the games' favor, not a detriment.

    EDIT: I (and clearly, many others) enjoy doing content when it's still fresh and new to everyone. We're all making the same dumb mistakes, we're discovering things at the same time. The first week of a patch is always my favorite because everyone is on equal footing, and nothing has been spoiled yet.
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