Where is all the content?

[Mirhd]

The MMO market is crap right now. That doesn't mean this game's design and direction is the sole reason for it's growth.

It hasn't been great for years, but what is your point? That this is the least crappy of them all? Not even remotely accurate, and FFXIV is clearly doing something right, because other MMOs that have come and gone (and there have been A LOT, lets not pretend here) and crashed and burned for multiple reasons... yet this one keeps going.

EDIT for your edit: Except it clearly is the reason. The WoW exodus only affected things this year. FFXIV has had large increases for every expansion and its been consistent, it's just this year that has been an outlier which no one could have planned for. It was a perfect storm.

[Velnora]

It hasn't been great for years, but what is your point? That this is the least crappy of them all? Not even remotely accurate, and FFXIV is clearly doing something right, because other MMOs that have come and gone (and there have been A LOT, lets not pretend here) and crashed and burned for multiple reasons... yet this one keeps going.

Yes, it is the least crappy of them all. It's the best while standing on a pile of crap.

[Mirhd]

Yes, it is the least crappy of them all. It's the best while standing on a pile of crap.

Thanks for coming out and saying what I figured you were saying, and reminding me of who I was talking to. Almost didn't notice because of the avatar change. No point trying to converse with someone so disingenuous, given what I've seen from you in other threads.

[Velnora]

Thanks for coming out and saying what I figured you were saying, and reminding me of who I was talking to. Almost didn't notice because of the avatar change. No point trying to converse with someone so disingenuous, given what I've seen from you in other threads.

What is disingenous? What part isn't true? The MMO market has been crap for years, so suggesting this games rise is solely based on it's merits IS disingenuous. Nice deflection though.

[Mirhd]

What is disingenous? What part isn't true? The MMO market has been crap for years, so suggesting this games rise is solely based on it's merits IS disingenuous. Nice deflection though.

You use "deflection" a lot, and I don't think you understand what that actually means.

Yes, it is the least crappy of them all. It's the best while standing on a pile of crap.

This isn't a fact, it's an opinion, and a non-argument. FFXIV is hardly the "lesser of all evils", and that fact that you keep pushing it as such IS disingenuous. I'm also willing to bet I've played MMOs longer than you, and experienced some of a best and worst there is to offer. This is so far from the latter, but keep wielding that edge, I guess.

[Velnora]

You use "deflection" a lot, and I don't think you understand what that actually means.



This isn't a fact, it's an opinion, and a non-argument. FFXIV is hardly the "lesser of all evils", and that fact that you keep pushing it as such IS disingenuous. I'm also willing to bet I've played MMOs longer than you, and experienced some of a best and worst there is to offer. This is so far from the latter, but keep wielding that edge, I guess.

Obviously it's an opinion. A non-argument? Lmao. It's just as much an opinion as your "FFXIV is the lesser of all evils". The irony of pushing your opinion as fact, while calling someone elses a "non-argument". Lay off the ego.

And no, I do not use deflection "A lot". Also, learn what disingenuous means.

[Jojoya]

Yes, it is the least crappy of them all. It's the best while standing on a pile of crap.

It's got to be doing something right when content creators from another MMO who were visibly stressed out over that game come here and are suddenly happy and having a good time.

If it was just another pile of crap (even a least objectionable one), they wouldn't stick around. They'd be streaming other games since there are hundreds of games out there to choose from.

If you're not enjoying it, then you're not enjoying it. Everyone has different tastes. That doesn't make it a crappy game.

[Velnora]

It's got to be doing something right when content creators from another MMO who were visibly stressed out over that game come here and are suddenly happy and having a good time.

If it was just another pile of crap (even a least objectionable one), they wouldn't stick around. They'd be streaming other games since there are hundreds of games out there to choose from.

If you're not enjoying it, then you're not enjoying it. Everyone has different tastes. That doesn't make it a crappy game.

That's not what is said. It's a good game, that is rife with issues. But the player increase is greatly increased due to the fact there isn't many other good MMO's out there right now. I mean, the Green Bay Packers won their division, but their competition is the Vikings, Lions, and Da Bears.

[Mirhd]

Obviously it's an opinion. A non-argument? Lmao. It's just as much an opinion as your "FFXIV is the lesser of all evils". The irony of pushing your opinion as fact, while calling someone elses a "non-argument". Lay off the ego.

And no, I do not use deflection "A lot". Also, learn what disingenuous means.

You tend to, actually, yes. Also, throwing around the word "ego" when yours is one of the larger ones I've seen on this forum is a special brand of ridiculous. I'm well aware of what disingenuous means, and considering many of your posts seem like a bizzare mix of genuine belief and trolling, the word usage is correct.

My saying "FFXIV is hardly the lesser of all evils" also is hardly an opinion (or at the very least, not an isolated one), as there actually are games that are objectively worse... else they would be doing much better, or in the case of others would still exist. I'm sorry reality doesn't match what you tell yourself.

It's got to be doing something right when content creators from another MMO who were visibly stressed out over that game come here and are suddenly happy and having a good time.

If it was just another pile of crap (even a least objectionable one), they wouldn't stick around. They'd be streaming other games since there are hundreds of games out there to choose from.

If you're not enjoying it, then you're not enjoying it. Everyone has different tastes. That doesn't make it a crappy game.

This. I honestly don't understand why this is so difficult to grasp for some people. Gonna bow out here, since this poster has shown time and again elsewhere there's no point trying to discuss anything with them, and I'd rather not derail things further. They just want to "win", it seems.

[Velnora]

You tend to, actually, yes. Also, throwing around the word "ego" when yours is one of the larger ones I've seen on this forum is a special brand of ridiculous. I'm well aware of what disingenuous means, and considering many of your posts seem like a bizzare mix of genuine belief and trolling, the word usage is correct.

My saying "FFXIV is hardly the lesser of all evils" also is hardly an opinion (or at the very least, not an isolated one), as there actually are games that are objectively worse... else they would be doing much better, or in the case of others would still exist. I'm sorry reality doesn't match what you tell yourself.



This. I honestly don't understand why this is so difficult to grasp for some people. Gonna bow out here, since this poster has shown time and again elsewhere there's no point trying to discuss anything with them, and I'd rather not derail things further. They just want to "win", it seems.

Hypocrisy is your strong suit it seems. These are forums. People are allowed to discuss things whether you agree or not. "My saying "FFXIV is hardly the lesser of all evils" also is hardly an opinion, as there actually games that are objectively worse". Way to contradict yourself. Unless you aren't filtering your critique of the game through your own personal emotion, then yes, it's an opinion. Instead of attempting to throw vague insults, by referencing other threads that have no bearing in this one, try attacking the argument.