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  1. #91
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sathona View Post
    Gaius couldnt go to Garlemald even if he wanted to cause he was accused for Varis's death. If Zenos was to come back, travelling with him would be kinda "worry".

    I dont think he will come back tbh, even if i liked him this expansion as he showed progress as a character, hes probably dead and theres no nearby hosts for him to take over in that zone.

    His Avatar may return using his body tho, we know they are capable of taking over their hosts bodies completely from the RPR questline.
    Can you elaborate on how you feel he made progress as a character? I felt he was the exact same megalomaniac as he was back in StB, driven only by his desire to fight someone of equal or better skill. The only reason he "helped" us was so that nobody else got to kill us, and so that we wouldn't be distracted by something bigger when we finally did decide to kick his sorry ass
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  2. #92
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    Cain Andleft
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sathona View Post
    Gaius couldnt go to Garlemald even if he wanted to cause he was accused for Varis's death. If Zenos was to come back, travelling with him would be kinda "worry".

    I dont think he will come back tbh, even if i liked him this expansion as he showed progress as a character, hes probably dead and theres no nearby hosts for him to take over in that zone.

    His Avatar may return using his body tho, we know they are capable of taking over their hosts bodies completely from the RPR questline.
    I'm still salty at how we just "enshroud" in the gameplay after being told enshroud is bad in the storyline, and our Avatar didn't do anything unique that makes it protect us against other Avatars to justify enshrouding us.
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  4. #93
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    Sarnai's Avatar
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    Sarnai Orl
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    I'm still salty at how we just "enshroud" in the gameplay after being told enshroud is bad in the storyline, and our Avatar didn't do anything unique that makes it protect us against other Avatars to justify enshrouding us.
    I'm both happy and sad that Avatar job questline doesn't elaborate on how RPR work at all.
    Good thing is that we are free to headcanon those things
    Bad thing is that we HAVE to headcanon because there is no information at all on how it works and what are pros/cons. The're just "oh you could die if you cant control your voidsent, good luck with that" as opposed to DRK which actually taught you to use your emotions and darkness to do good and not being consumed by pain and suffering.
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  5. #94
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    Nica Kisshu
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    I'm still salty at how we just "enshroud" in the gameplay after being told enshroud is bad in the storyline, and our Avatar didn't do anything unique that makes it protect us against other Avatars to justify enshrouding us.
    Such a weird questline that really doesn't want to commit any job abilities in the story, it's just "Here's a stone and scythe, you're a w̶i̶z̶a̶r̶d̶, ̶H̶a̶r̶r̶y̶ Reaper now"

    I get that they've moved away from quests being linked to / featuring abilities since around SB, but it leaves the quests and jobs feel rather divided.
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  6. #95
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    Elysidelphi's Avatar
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    Azeyma Persephoneisis
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erinellza View Post
    Sure, that sounds like fun! I'd enjoy a place where people don't think that I'm crazy for loving Zenos. :P
    Yay! Here's a link, hope it works for you! (please let me know if it doesn't work so I can try again)

    https://discord.gg/P8A269fy
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    "For whom weeps the storm
    Her tears on our skin
    The days of our years gone
    Our souls soaked in sin
    These memories ache with the weight of tomorrow"

  7. #96
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    Axious Atheorion
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    FFXI you fight Shinryu in a very similar area where Zenos is currently located.

    It would be interesting if that was an introduction to a story arc for FFXI Abyssea expansion.

    Zenos may still be alive.
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  8. #97
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Pretty sure that was Vana'diel - Abyssea's moon (an alternate future where the player loses against Promathia) where you fight Shinryu in FFXI.
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  9. #98
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axious View Post
    FFXI you fight Shinryu in a very similar area where Zenos is currently located.

    It would be interesting if that was an introduction to a story arc for FFXI Abyssea expansion.

    Zenos may still be alive.
    With the time and dimension traveling, I kinda have a theory that Zenos is Shinryuu
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  10. #99
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    With the time and dimension traveling, I kinda have a theory that Zenos is Shinryuu
    He'd need a lot of aether, though and he's kinda in a place where there is none... also in FFXI's case, the Shinryu in that game is Promathia.
    I genuinely think Zenos is dead dead. He got a satisfying fight and who's to say his Avatar didn't eat whatever of his soul/aether remained?
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  11. #100
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    Winter Stardust
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    Adamantoise
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    He'd need a lot of aether, though and he's kinda in a place where there is none... also in FFXI's case, the Shinryu in that game is Promathia.
    I genuinely think Zenos is dead dead. He got a satisfying fight and who's to say his Avatar didn't eat whatever of his soul/aether remained?
    In the reaper quests we learn that your voidsent avatar can keep you alive OR possess/eat you. Given that Yoshi P said the avatar is "Zenos's new best friend" it may have kept him alive
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