Zenos is... [big fat spoily]

[SomeRandomHuman]

I really hope we are done with him, I was so tired of him throughout 6.0 and found him to be little more than an annoying distraction and I am incredibly disappointed that our last encounter of the expansion was him. The last fight of our journey from ARR to here is this guy, who just showed up in 4.0 and who's purpose is "gotta fight to get my jollies off".

My sentiments exactly. Fandaniel was way more interesting and made Aitiascope all the better. While I'm satisfied with how base 6.0 ended, I think it was a bad move to end on the duel with Zenos. I actively pretend that duel never happened because Zenos shouldn't have lasted past the Shinryu fight.

[Jybril]

My sentiments exactly. Fandaniel was way more interesting and made Aitiascope all the better. While I'm satisfied with how base 6.0 ended, I think it was a bad move to end on the duel with Zenos. I actively pretend that duel never happened because Zenos shouldn't have lasted past the Shinryu fight.

The duel was the dumbest thing ever.
It's actually more entertaining and hysterical if you watch a Lalafell do it, where Zenos has to punch downwards
to send the little potato flying LOL.

I think this little bit shoulda been the ending of SB. This was really not the place, nor time
to be having "one more go". He overstayed his welcome and I think they didn't know what to do with him.
I was hoping the final punch would be more climatic, too. We powered our fists and I was thinking "EXPLOSIONS!" but
all he did was flip over and laid there LMAO. Meh, please stay dead lol.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Well, if he's alive, I guess that newly opened cafe in Ultima Thule will have its only customer.

Maybe they can sell him a personality.

[RobynDaBank]

Zenos is a damaged person. It's nothing cute...

[Faafetai]

Zenos is a damaged person. It's nothing cute...

Can a damaged person not be attractive? I may just be confused due to not being a native english speaker.

[Kikoten]

Can a damaged person not be attractive? I may just be confused due to not being a native english speaker.

At the risk of sounding like I'm preaching, I don't think it's an English speaker thing. There really are people who find "damaged goods" not attractive. It's a terrible double-standard that should be steered clear of, but here we are.

Having said that, I felt that that post was more sarcastic or tongue-in-cheek than anything else.

[Akimori]

Let him stay dead. Im sick of seeing his ugly face. The last thing I want is for him to invade my body *AGAIN*

I mean..the WoL already has too many occupants in their body! The last thing I want is that garbage can in there too

[Gemina]

Let him stay dead. Im sick of seeing his ugly face. The last thing I want is for him to invade my body *AGAIN*

I mean..the WoL already has too many occupants in their body! The last thing I want is that garbage can in there too

I now have this vision in my head of like a couch with Azem, Ardbert, Midgarsormr, possibly even Hraesvalgr as well when he let us sap on an eye powerup already all pressed together; then you see Zenos pop in all nonchalant and try to squeeze his way on it, and they're all like, "ummm, wtf?"

But yeah, I felt very violated when he took over my body. Just thinking of all the creepy things he could do really put me at a state of unrest and panic.

[eagledorf]

Please don't bring Zenos back, he was a bad character.

SE intended him to be a foil to the WoL, where WoL has experienced many things (heard, felt, and thought through), experienced loss, and found what is life-affirming in spite of it to become a true ubermensch, Zenos is a spoiled little princeling who got bored of his easy live and decided nothing other people value matters. Never having suffered he doesn't understand the value of the empire he's supposed to protect and he gives up the tremendous strength of an empire for the much smaller strength of a rogue killer. He's like an animal, driven entirely by desire, but worse because he has a human mind that he's not bothering to use.

Up to there is fine, many works of fiction like Crime and Punishment and Ropes have featured the delusional spoiled kid who thinks himself superior to others, but the difference is Zenos is fulfilled at the end of the story. He gets exactly what he wants, an epic duel with the WoL.

If Zenos and WoL both get what they want in the end equally even though the WoL has greater strength and a higher purpose it's like Meteon was right all along. It doesn't matter how you live your life, you might as well just be dead. Zenos, or at least his final cutscenes, completely ruined the philosophical thesis of the story (unless I misunderstood it and it's actually nihilist). I hope he never comes back, not even in some kind of afterlife thing.