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  1. #11
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    Rhysati's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirika- View Post
    It is an actionable offense.
    No it isn't. There are buttons to leave group. You can leave for any reason you want.
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  2. #12
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    Kirika Yuumura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    No it isn't. There are buttons to leave group. You can leave for any reason you want.
    It is.
    And, yes, it is enforced and those found in violation are punished.
    Section: Obstruction of play - Intentional leaving or disconnection

    As to if the player's who dropped have a "legit" reason other than "I didn't want the lesser exp run, so I dropped", that is up to the GM's to investigate.
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    Last edited by Kirika-; 01-17-2022 at 03:50 AM.

  3. #13
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirika- View Post
    It is.
    And, yes, it is enforced and those found in violation are punished.
    Section: Obstruction of play - Intentional leaving or disconnection

    As to if the player's who dropped have a "legit" reason other than "I didn't want the lesser exp run, so I dropped", that is up to the GM's to investigate.
    That is for intentionally disconnecting to force the party to vote dismiss you so you dont take the penalty. Not for leaving an instance which already has a penalty. Otherwise they would just make the leaving penalty increase each instance...

    Also, if you start reporting people for leaving you could be actioned for making malicious and false reports lol.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    That... sounds like a lot of work for something like that when the system could just be better.
    Yes, the system could be better, until then you use the methods available.
    Not doing anything to help stop it, only allows it to happen more.
    Like I said, the whole process would take a few minutes tops.
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    Kirika Yuumura of the Noir

    The Soldats' Manor, home of the Noir and of Noir's Eorzean Natural History Museum and Aquarium
    Plot 7, Ward 22, Shirogane, Faerie

    Noir... It is the name of an ancient fate. Two maidens who govern death; the peace of the newly-born Noir hands protect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    That is for intentionally disconnecting to force the party to vote dismiss you so you dont take the penalty. Not for leaving an instance which already has a penalty. Otherwise they would just make the leaving penalty increase each instance...

    Also, if you start reporting people for leaving you could be actioned for making malicious and false reports lol.
    My link was borked, I fixed it.

    Relevant from link:
    "However, if a report is filed, a penalty will be issued if the following types of situations are confirmed to be occurring repeatedly:

    Occurs right after entering a duty
    Occurs when progress is not going well in a duty
    Occurs when the team is about to be defeated in PvP

    Even if there was no intention to interfere with others, repeated occurrences can be a nuisance to others. If you are experiencing network instability, or if you are frequently unable to play due to real-world circumstances, be considerate of others by refraining from participating in the duty/content, taking into account that you may unintentionally cause issues for others."
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    Kirika Yuumura of the Noir

    The Soldats' Manor, home of the Noir and of Noir's Eorzean Natural History Museum and Aquarium
    Plot 7, Ward 22, Shirogane, Faerie

    Noir... It is the name of an ancient fate. Two maidens who govern death; the peace of the newly-born Noir hands protect.

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirika- View Post
    My link was borked, I fixed it.

    Relevant from link:
    "However, if a report is filed, a penalty will be issued if the following types of situations are confirmed to be occurring repeatedly:

    Occurs right after entering a duty
    Occurs when progress is not going well in a duty
    Occurs when the team is about to be defeated in PvP

    Even if there was no intention to interfere with others, repeated occurrences can be a nuisance to others. If you are experiencing network instability, or if you are frequently unable to play due to real-world circumstances, be considerate of others by refraining from participating in the duty/content, taking into account that you may unintentionally cause issues for others."
    Yes, that is in regards to intentionally disconnecting... they are not talking about using the "Leave duty" button....

    Though, if you want to get suspended for malicious reporting, by all means, go for it. No ones stopping you.

    If they didn't want anyone leaving instances, they would remove the button.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 01-17-2022 at 03:54 AM.

  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Yes, that is in regards to intentionally disconnecting... they are not talking about using the "Leave duty" button....

    Though, if you want to get suspended for malicious reporting, by all means, go for it. No ones stopping you.

    If they didn't want anyone leaving instances, they would remove the button.
    I'm a regular in MSQ Roulette, get Castrum a lot, I see players drop at start a lot, haven't had any of my reports bite me, they have all been responses of "Thanks for your report, based on the details provided we were able to assess penalties to those involved..."
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    Kirika Yuumura of the Noir

    The Soldats' Manor, home of the Noir and of Noir's Eorzean Natural History Museum and Aquarium
    Plot 7, Ward 22, Shirogane, Faerie

    Noir... It is the name of an ancient fate. Two maidens who govern death; the peace of the newly-born Noir hands protect.

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirika- View Post
    I'm a regular in MSQ Roulette, get Castrum a lot, I see players drop at start a lot, haven't had any of my reports bite me, they have all been responses of "Thanks for your report, based on the details provided we were able to assess penalties to those involved..."
    They don't tell you if actions were taken against the reported people.

    Sorry. You are just getting the same response everyone does.

    Plus, we'd see a huge amount of people on here and reddit if they were getting suspensions over this. and so far, I havent seen a single one.
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  9. #19
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    I joined a duty two days ago and I had a full system crash as soon as the duty commenced. It took me several minutes to get back in and by the time I did the duty had ended - it was the guildheiest everyone hates (the poison one). I felt so guilty that people might have assumed I disconnected on purpose.
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  10. #20
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    Azuri Aeru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirika- View Post
    I'm a regular in MSQ Roulette, get Castrum a lot, I see players drop at start a lot, haven't had any of my reports bite me, they have all been responses of "Thanks for your report, based on the details provided we were able to assess penalties to those involved..."
    Ah, but that's where your tall tale comes to an end. Square Enix doesn't share any information about potential penalties with the person who reported someone. To do otherwise would infringe on their privacy.
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