A PvP Driven Expansion For 7.0

[SnowVix]

As the title suggests, SE making 7.0 a pvp driven expansion would really shake up the formula and create many interesting opportunities. First the more practical being that content would have a longer shelf life given it would be more player driven. Also it would make the open world far more interesting by during the boring, one and done zones into moving, contested fronts. They could even do monthly/seasonal rewards and titles for those that control the most land. You could also involve the crafters and gatherers by making economy player controlled. Making market board systems only work for friendly factions.

Lore wise you could justify it as a either a breakdown of the great company of Eorzea and other nations, or a scramble for the resources of the new world or southern continent. It would also open up role-playing opportunities by allowing players to settle scores with violence. I would even go so far as allowing war crimes and making a infamy/fame or hero/villain system to gauge rewards and standing. I mean, who hasn't wanted to commit warcrimes against the Lalafell menace.

Thoughts?

I'd also like to add a second thought. "Change for the sake of change", or as you put it "let's do something completely different from the rest of the game to 'really shake up the formula'" is bad. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, and "not having the ability to gank lowbies" isn't "broken".

[Velnora]

Time to unsubscribe from the game.

This isn't a PvP game. If someone wants a PvP game, they should go play one.

Yeah, for you. That doesn't mean others wouldn't enjoy it.

[Velnora]

I would say the player base is in tune with exactly what the game is and want to do what the game has to offer. It's very condescending to say the playerbase "doesn't handle things well" when the game isn't supposed to be those things other things. It's like saying an F1 racecar sucks as a car because it only has one seat. Similarly, Guildwars has racing, but it's not even remotely trying to be a racing game. It's fun, but it ain't Mariokart.

I would encourage you to utilize FFXIV as a chatroom if need be to organize play in other games, like Fortnite, if you're trying to PvP. I meet with friends regularly in game just to facilitate chat while we play Switch.

Only the devs determine "what it is supposed to be". Not what you want it to be.

[Velnora]

This game actually has surprisingly fun and engaging PVP, but it is not a feature most of the community has any interest in regardless of its quality. You are trying to sell an immaculate, exemplary hippopotamus to people who are simply not interested in owning a hippo. That is not what the vast majority of Final Fantasy fans want out of this game. Even the PVPers generally agree it is and should be a fringe feature.

"That is not what the vast majority of Final Fantasy fans want out of this game". Really? Can you prove that?

[Tetsujin]

While I'd be game, 99.99% of the player base wouldn't be. Also let's be real, FFXIV was not made with PvP as a main focus in mind.

What would the story even be? The Warrior of Light and Scions turn on their ideals and past mission of uniting Eorzea and other peoples and start waging war too? Now that their mission has finally been fulfilled? Nah, man.

"That is not what the vast majority of Final Fantasy fans want out of this game". Really? Can you prove that?

See the smaller scale PvP mode numbers. Frontlines get a lot of people for the sweet daily bonus, but nothing else. Servers have a handful of people dedicated to PvP only.

[Caurcas]

You just have to give PvP a chance.

[Saimeren]

You just have to give PvP a chance.

People have, and the devs decided that it's not worth putting time into. They don't even update the pvp actions when classes get reworked. Why would you think they'd spend an entire expansion dedicated to it?

[Velnora]

While I'd be game, 99.99% of the player base wouldn't be. Also let's be real, FFXIV was not made with PvP as a main focus in mind.

What would the story even be? The Warrior of Light and Scions turn on their ideals and past mission of uniting Eorzea and other peoples and start waging war too? Now that their mission has finally been fulfilled? Nah, man.


See the smaller scale PvP mode numbers. Frontlines get a lot of people for the sweet daily bonus, but nothing else. Servers have a handful of people dedicated to PvP only.

Right. Due to the lack of *quality* small scale. It's not due to lack of interest. Fix the netcode and create fun modes, and participation will increase.

[Caurcas]

People have, and the devs decided that it's not worth putting time into. They don't even update the pvp actions when classes get reworked. Why would you think they'd spend an entire expansion dedicated to it?

Actually they are suppose to be revamping alot of pvp in 6.1

[Velnora]

Actually they are suppose to be revamping alot of pvp in 6.1

Due to player demand. Imagine that.