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    Player JanVanding's Avatar
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    Edie Ul'mehdi
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Lord, at this rate we're going to have aimbotters crying they're being gatekept.
    I'm sorry but how does seeing cast bars and a bit of summary text equate to an aimbot?

    It's not resolving the mechanics

    It's not playing the game

    It's not doing anything but giving a weak auras style bit of text and having information presented

    That is already readily available!

    Why do you hate that? Why would you even think that cheating? Dangerous road your walking because ACT is the tool that you have reading your network files and you use it, so technically would that not be you cheating as well? To gather information from a set of third party tools to understand your performance and improve it?

    Now, if the tool was literally telling me exactly where to stand, what to do, everything like it's holding my hand through the fight. Then you have a point.

    It literally doesn't do that. I still have to pay attention to what's going on, where I need to be, what I need to do and I don't need the tool for any of that

    Oh and btw 99 parse results? Someone uses the tool themselves for optimizing don't they? Go on, you can admit it and feel no shame for doing so

    Because if your shot caller is using it (which you already admitted it was happening due to a cancelled Tuesday raid because it wasn't updated)

    You're using it because they're using it to optimise their callouts to you, making it easier for you to play optimally.
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    Saraide's Avatar
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    I'm sorry but how does seeing cast bars and a bit of summary text equate to an aimbot?

    It's not resolving the mechanics

    It's not playing the game

    It's not doing anything but giving a weak auras style bit of text and having information presented

    That is already readily available!

    Why do you hate that? Why would you even think that cheating? Dangerous road your walking because ACT is the tool that you have reading your network files and you use it, so technically would that not be you cheating as well? To gather information from a set of third party tools to understand your performance and improve it?

    Now, if the tool was literally telling me exactly where to stand, what to do, everything like it's holding my hand through the fight. Then you have a point.

    It literally doesn't do that. I still have to pay attention to what's going on, where I need to be, what I need to do and I don't need the tool for any of that

    Oh and btw 99 parse results? Someone uses the tool themselves for optimizing don't they? Go on, you can admit it and feel no shame for doing so

    Because if your shot caller is using it (which you already admitted it was happening due to a cancelled Tuesday raid because it wasn't updated)

    You're using it because they're using it to optimise their callouts to you, making it easier for you to play optimally.
    I always had the believe that using cactbot is cheating the learning process, not the end result. Cheating as in taking an unintended shortcut. But in the end I dont think you have any real advantage over someone just playing and knowing the fight well. It is kinda cringe however if someone has to cancel raid days because cactbot isnt updated.
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    LittleImp's Avatar
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    Lil Imp
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    I'm sorry but how does seeing cast bars and a bit of summary text equate to an aimbot?

    It's not resolving the mechanics

    It's not playing the game
    Solving and reading puzzle mechanics is an inherent part of this games practical execution.

    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post

    It's not doing anything but giving a weak auras style bit of text and having information presented

    That is already readily available!
    Players cannot directly read network packets, which often contain information about upcoming mechanics. It also automates part of the decision making process in regards to many mechanics, removing the necessity for players to 'solve' mechanics.

    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    Because if your shot caller is using it (which you already admitted it was happening due to a cancelled Tuesday raid because it wasn't updated)

    You're using it because they're using it to optimise their callouts to you, making it easier for you to play optimally.
    A member of my raid-group was using it to assist them in solving personal responsibility mechanics that couldn't reliably be called for them by myself, as well as for timeline tracking purposes to prep for upcoming mechs. We had to cancel raid because they refused to attend that day. They were kicked from the static eventually because it turned out they were also using scripts to automate portions of their rotation. People who are willing to shortcut certain things, will often shortcut others.

    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    So you want to call me a cheater for finding a way to address a disability that SE failed to account for?
    Funny how this point only comes out after all of your other justifications have been refuted. Shouldn't this have been something you said earlier if it was such a critical point?

    SE does largely account for this, the additional shape/animation tells you cited as relying on are intentionally created for the benefit of people that struggle with color recognition.
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    Last edited by LittleImp; 01-15-2022 at 04:06 PM.