Quote Originally Posted by rewd View Post
Different day, same shit.

Old SMN was clunky and annoying - ✓
Usual buzzwords for "I'm not good at this" and/or "This personally doesn't click with me, so it's clunky". Conveniently turning a blind eye to how Ifrit-Egi, Titan-Egi and Carbuncle are problematic.

Ackchyually old SMN was, like, totally easier than MIN - ✓
Usually coming from people that stop at Expert Roulette and genuinely (how, I don't know) think that there jobs in the game that instead are complex to play at an average level. In Endwalker, of all things.

It's a good thing that we have jobs you can play with a macro! I wish more jobs were like this because Netflix ain't gonna watch itself! - ✓
As we all know, SE is an indie company so asking them to design jobs that can cater to different crowds of players at the same time is probably a tad too much.
1. Continuing to insult and belittle people's abilities when it comes to old SMN isn't helping its case much. In any case while those egis are somewhat annoying to use, I don't have much of a problem as long as I'm using them in melee range. These issues then disappear with the level 90 upgrade. So far I have not experienced ghosting with Carbuncle or the demis since launch but if that is the case for some then I hope those issues are resolved.

2. Views vary as to what made old Summoner complex, for me it was due to the fact that I felt like I was fighting more against my keyboard and the systems than the actual boss in front of me, combined with the bugs and glitches that were far more prominent and widespread then compared to now.

3. You can make a macro to play just about any job, in any case no jobs should not have huge barriers to entry like Summoner used to have. "Complex!" gameplay lovers don't get to have entire jobs to themselves, if you want complex gameplay and challenges then Savage and Ultimate are right there.