Mods and cheat engine

[Rinhi]

Today I did see some fellow players that was using Cheat Engine to be able to sit on places there they should not be able to sit. [...] Teleporting to all mining nodes? Making character fly if you have not unlocked flying?

that's a jump and a half to make about someone "editing" an emote

[Apeachs]

that's a jump and a half to make about someone "editing" an emote

But that's the thing, if its "okey" to use "cheat engine" what will then stop players from doing other things.
What will come after when just sitting and sleeping surfaces isn't enough?
A friendly reminder about the EULA you all accept when using this game.

2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.

[MintnHoney]

But that's the thing, if its "okey" to use "cheat engine" what will then stop players from doing other things.

I mean, you, apparently.
Our moral compass.
Our necessary neighborhood watchman.
Our old lady in the window, rolling up the blinds just as we catch you watching us through those binoculars.

Watching us sit, like the degenerates that we are.
Such shameful displays of discourtesy to our fellow players.
Sitting.
How dare anyone flirt so much with such dangerous behavior? How do we survive the temptation of teleporting underneath the floors of the world after having a taste of that sitting animation?

We, and Square Enix, are very lucky to have concerned and ever-watchful citizens like you.
But I guarantee you, despite what impressions you got from reading the transcripts from Yoshi-P's recent radio show speech, you'd have a better time making them more "aware" of our transgressions by reporting the players and their heinous sitting (ugh, so disgusting!) in game, so that GMs can look into the situation and get them to stand up, like a normal, more "correct" player should.

Sardonicism aside, seriously, the devs will be just as aware, if not more so, about the situation if you let GMs in-game actually do something about it, assuming anything wrong is actually happening, instead of coming to the forums to vent out vague complaints.

[Packetdancer]

I see many using the Cheat Engine so they can make their characters sit anywhere they want, even the /doze emote on surfaces. Isn't it time to implement a system so such things can't be used? Also make it so the game files can't be modified.

Square-Enix have said before -- in these forums, even! -- that they don't care if folks are using ReShade or its forks (the FFXIV-focused GShade, or Nvidia's own Freestyle -- which actually lists FFXIV in the officially supported games with Square-Enix's blessing) to tweak the game's display for artistic screenshot purposes. They've just asked that those sort of screenshots don't put the normal copyright message at the bottom, so that people don't mistake them for stock shots.

They've also sort of indicated they don't really care much if folks are modifying poses/emotes/positions in GPose (when character data is entirely separated from anything the server cares about); if you've got a screenshot sitting on a railing reading a book, cool, enjoy. (Though if folks are using it to make porn they do sometimes step in and drop bans on them, likely because they have to if they want the game to maintain its existing age ratings.)

They actively care if people are using memory modification or network hackery to alter the game state in ways the server cares about, though. Botting, etc.

It sure would be nice if GPose included a lot of those options on its own, though, I grant you this. (Manually reposition your character, create custom poses, change the time-of-day and weather, etc.)

But that's the thing, if its "okey" to use "cheat engine" what will then stop players from doing other things.

The reason game companies (and other places) write very broad TOS terminology ("If you use third-party tools you may be banned.") is so that they don't have to constantly revise it. If they said "No third party tools that alter the client's memory state in a manner that affects gameplay", someone'll make a tool that modifies the outgoing network traffic entirely separate from the game process, point to that and say "I didn't break TOS!" And worse, they'd be right. And then Square-Enix would have to sigh and go revise the TOS again to add something else you can't do, and wait for the next person to find a loophole.

Just saying "No third party tools or you may be banned." means if someone's using third-party tools in a manner you don't care about (i.e., shader injection for artistic screenshots, DPS parsing for personal improvement in your static, etc.), you're free to go "Meh. *shrug*" and ignore it, but if someone's using third-party tools in a manner that's problematic (i.e., botting or cheating), you're free to go "You broke the TOS, you are the weakest link, goodbye." and toss them out the door.

So, "What will stop players from doing other more cheaty things" is "if they get caught, they will get banned", as Square-Enix is free to enforce their TOS in that manner.

[IdowhatIwant]

What will come after when just sitting and sleeping surfaces isn't enough?

They sit and sleep in the sky and water?

[SenorPatty]

They sit and sleep in the sky and water?

Great, just great. Now I want this to be a thing. I want this to happen and I know it's not gonna happen and now I'm sad.

Thank you, very much, sir/madam.

[Packetdancer]

Great, just great. Now I want this to be a thing. I want this to happen and I know it's not gonna happen and now I'm sad.

Allow me to introduce you to the "/waterfloat" emote, already in-game; lay on your back dozing on the surface of any swimmable water!

[IdowhatIwant]

Allow me to introduce you to the "/waterfloat" emote, already in-game; lay on your back dozing on the surface of any swimmable water!

It's not sitting though.

[Sarnai]

They sit and sleep in the sky and water?

You can already sit and sleep in the sky AND water and I think it's disgusting, SE ban please