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  1. #91
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    Apeachs's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    that's a jump and a half to make about someone "editing" an emote
    But that's the thing, if its "okey" to use "cheat engine" what will then stop players from doing other things.
    What will come after when just sitting and sleeping surfaces isn't enough?
    A friendly reminder about the EULA you all accept when using this game.
    2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.
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    Last edited by Apeachs; 01-13-2022 at 04:59 AM.

  2. #92
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    MintnHoney's Avatar
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    Aylin Bielawska
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apeachs View Post
    But that's the thing, if its "okey" to use "cheat engine" what will then stop players from doing other things.
    I mean, you, apparently.
    Our moral compass.
    Our necessary neighborhood watchman.
    Our old lady in the window, rolling up the blinds just as we catch you watching us through those binoculars.

    Watching us sit, like the degenerates that we are.
    Such shameful displays of discourtesy to our fellow players.
    Sitting.
    How dare anyone flirt so much with such dangerous behavior? How do we survive the temptation of teleporting underneath the floors of the world after having a taste of that sitting animation?

    We, and Square Enix, are very lucky to have concerned and ever-watchful citizens like you.
    But I guarantee you, despite what impressions you got from reading the transcripts from Yoshi-P's recent radio show speech, you'd have a better time making them more "aware" of our transgressions by reporting the players and their heinous sitting (ugh, so disgusting!) in game, so that GMs can look into the situation and get them to stand up, like a normal, more "correct" player should.

    Sardonicism aside, seriously, the devs will be just as aware, if not more so, about the situation if you let GMs in-game actually do something about it, assuming anything wrong is actually happening, instead of coming to the forums to vent out vague complaints.
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  3. #93
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    Packetdancer's Avatar
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apeachs View Post
    I see many using the Cheat Engine so they can make their characters sit anywhere they want, even the /doze emote on surfaces. Isn't it time to implement a system so such things can't be used? Also make it so the game files can't be modified.
    Square-Enix have said before -- in these forums, even! -- that they don't care if folks are using ReShade or its forks (the FFXIV-focused GShade, or Nvidia's own Freestyle -- which actually lists FFXIV in the officially supported games with Square-Enix's blessing) to tweak the game's display for artistic screenshot purposes. They've just asked that those sort of screenshots don't put the normal copyright message at the bottom, so that people don't mistake them for stock shots.

    They've also sort of indicated they don't really care much if folks are modifying poses/emotes/positions in GPose (when character data is entirely separated from anything the server cares about); if you've got a screenshot sitting on a railing reading a book, cool, enjoy. (Though if folks are using it to make porn they do sometimes step in and drop bans on them, likely because they have to if they want the game to maintain its existing age ratings.)

    They actively care if people are using memory modification or network hackery to alter the game state in ways the server cares about, though. Botting, etc.

    It sure would be nice if GPose included a lot of those options on its own, though, I grant you this. (Manually reposition your character, create custom poses, change the time-of-day and weather, etc.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Apeachs View Post
    But that's the thing, if its "okey" to use "cheat engine" what will then stop players from doing other things.
    The reason game companies (and other places) write very broad TOS terminology ("If you use third-party tools you may be banned.") is so that they don't have to constantly revise it. If they said "No third party tools that alter the client's memory state in a manner that affects gameplay", someone'll make a tool that modifies the outgoing network traffic entirely separate from the game process, point to that and say "I didn't break TOS!" And worse, they'd be right. And then Square-Enix would have to sigh and go revise the TOS again to add something else you can't do, and wait for the next person to find a loophole.

    Just saying "No third party tools or you may be banned." means if someone's using third-party tools in a manner you don't care about (i.e., shader injection for artistic screenshots, DPS parsing for personal improvement in your static, etc.), you're free to go "Meh. *shrug*" and ignore it, but if someone's using third-party tools in a manner that's problematic (i.e., botting or cheating), you're free to go "You broke the TOS, you are the weakest link, goodbye." and toss them out the door.

    So, "What will stop players from doing other more cheaty things" is "if they get caught, they will get banned", as Square-Enix is free to enforce their TOS in that manner.
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apeachs View Post
    What will come after when just sitting and sleeping surfaces isn't enough?
    They sit and sleep in the sky and water?
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    They sit and sleep in the sky and water?
    Great, just great. Now I want this to be a thing. I want this to happen and I know it's not gonna happen and now I'm sad.

    Thank you, very much, sir/madam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  6. #96
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    Quies Animus
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Great, just great. Now I want this to be a thing. I want this to happen and I know it's not gonna happen and now I'm sad.

    Thank you, very much, sir/madam.
    We can already float in the water, sleeping in the water is the obvious next thing! We have to push ffxiv towards the future that we envision! We will not be stopped by people such as this!
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  7. #97
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Great, just great. Now I want this to be a thing. I want this to happen and I know it's not gonna happen and now I'm sad.
    Allow me to introduce you to the "/waterfloat" emote, already in-game; lay on your back dozing on the surface of any swimmable water!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  8. #98
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    Allow me to introduce you to the "/waterfloat" emote, already in-game; lay on your back dozing on the surface of any swimmable water!
    It's not sitting though.
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  9. #99
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    Sarnai Orl
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    They sit and sleep in the sky and water?
    You can already sit and sleep in the sky AND water and I think it's disgusting, SE ban please

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  10. #100
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    "It was just harmless sitting!!" They cried and shouted as XIV installed it's 10th layer of great value game guard brand malware to purity test your client and PC.

    On the real I think people using cheat engine for sitting are goofy af, a little bit of searching and you'll see there's ways to get the exact same results just in Gpose and client side only instead. ya'll should just admit you only use the cheat engine version because you wanna be seen and get that sick limsa clout.
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