Yoshi-P Statement on Player Feedback

[KizuyaKatogami]

Or, and hear me out on this radical idea, people can actually be civil and not degrade into an unruly mob of shouting obscenities at others, and shooting down constructive criticism. The vast majority of "criticism" I've seen on these forums is people just insulting the devs for their decisions, or attacking people for having a differing view to their own - usually when the OP dislikes something, and someone likes it, I've seen both ways where the OP just instantly calls the responder an idiot(vast paraphrasing here), or the other way around where the OP is called the idiot(again, vast paraphrasing) for their views.

If people actually took their time to actually stop and think before typing, a lot of the criticism would actually promote discussion, and not just be person A telling person B to shut up, and then person B telling person A to shut up, and it going in a circle with absolutely nothing actually discussed about.

You’re damned if you do damned if you don’t though. People have given constructive criticism before or opinions on things and people bash them for it, call them a troll, say they’re wrong etc etc. It’s not an unknown thing that a large portion of the community can’t handle criticism. I will say i’m incredibly surprised it’s the jp side that has more criticism though although that may just be because they don’t really look to EN for much stuff. I don’t judge people too harshly for their venom on here considering the devs have basically abandoned these forums.

[Eriane_Elis]

The staff did a great job with Endwalker, although the hype of Shadowbringers was much higher for me and a greater experience in that regard just because of the time and level of excitement I had. I enjoyed Endwalker from end-to-end and really thought they upped their level when it came to the camera work, character animation, dialogs and their creative writing was top-notch as always. The music is and always has been the best in the industry. I don't know what caused the delays, Japan has very low numbers of covid related illnesses and hardly any deaths. Maybe work from home is more difficult for them to adjust and being creative? I don't know, I'm pretty sure they give it their all but my curiosity on why it was delayed and some parts weren't released at launched happened. I am really happy to hear that Soken beat cancer and find it amazing and inspiring that even in the hospital he was composing music. The passion with the FF14 team is nuts, like holy kupo nuts! People in general are [ Redacted ] and even if you know this, you can't help but feel pain from the words people post about the very thing you put your heart and soul into. For years I've been telling people that FF14 is one of the few games I've ever played where you can feel the developer's souls put into the game. It's a business but the staff make it personal for sure and you understand once you start playing.

[Quintessa]

For a while, people on this forum had me thinking it was the English-speaking forum that voiced their disapproval with this game the most. Apparently the Japanese player-base is just as dissatisfied, if not more.

Fun fact: PSO2 (the original game) was changed to free to play because the japanese players refused to play another subscription based phantasy star online game. Indeed, the company of the host country doesn't get any slack from the local gamers.

[Theodric]

For a while, people on this forum had me thinking it was the English-speaking forum that voiced their disapproval with this game the most. Apparently the Japanese player-base is just as dissatisfied, if not more.

I can only speculate, but I rather suspect it's because a lot of concessions are made in regards to the game at the cost of Japanese tastes and trends.

[Avatre]

You’re damned if you do damned if you don’t though. People have given constructive criticism before or opinions on things and people bash them for it, call them a troll, say they’re wrong etc etc. It’s not an unknown thing that a large portion of the community can’t handle criticism. I will say i’m incredibly surprised it’s the jp side that has more criticism though although that may just be because they don’t really look to EN for much stuff. I don’t judge people too harshly for their venom on here considering the devs have basically abandoned these forums.

While it does happen a lot where people are called trolls for their criticism, there are a large number of posts that have been just that. They typically just barely make valid points that don't actually go anywhere, and those people vanish after posting that topic. Only to start up another controversial topic where everything degrades into name calling. You can usually tell which ones they are because they have 1 battle class maxed, and all crafters/gatherers maxed, a lot of them are also from the same FC, or single person FCs.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that it is usually more open to discussion if people are civil about it and don't use insults(yes, it is an insult) like calling people who enjoy what the game is - even if it's opposite the OPs opinion - White Knights.

I personally feel there can be improvements to the game, but can I pinpoint exactly how I would like it to improve? Not really, but it feels like there could be more. Maybe more depth to some of the tidbits we get through the MSQ(yes, some sidequests give that, but not always). Heck, maybe even just more of a skill curve to get people to actually try and get better rather than be carried through content.

[Unaki]

For a while, people on this forum had me thinking it was the English-speaking forum that voiced their disapproval with this game the most. Apparently the Japanese player-base is just as dissatisfied, if not more.

There is an entire segment of the FF11 fanbase that very vocally goes out of their way to make sure people know they hate 14 for "ruining" 11 and want it to fail.

[LisSquid]

For a while, people on this forum had me thinking it was the English-speaking forum that voiced their disapproval with this game the most. Apparently the Japanese player-base is just as dissatisfied, if not more.

I am actually embarrassingly curious about what is going on in JP for there to be an official statement like this.

Didn't think they were speaking about the English playerbase at first due to the fact we have such a lack of access to the devs. I would assume all feedback, even the most hostile, would not be translated word for word to the devs.

[Avatre]

There is an entire segment of the FF11 fanbase that very vocally goes out of their way to make sure people know they hate 14 for "ruining" 11 and want it to fail.

Decade late for that to happen, isn't it? While there can be improvements, I don't think 14 will outright fail in the near future.

[Driavna]

I can only speculate, but I rather suspect it's because a lot of concessions are made in regards to the game at the cost of Japanese tastes and trends.

You are probably right about that one, plus FFXIV has only seen big improvements regarding MSQ (this is independent to liking or disliking it) and "one time content" while the MMO side of it is in a weird spot.

[raelgun]

I am actually embarrassingly curious about what is going on in JP for there to be an official statement like this.

Didn't think they were speaking about the English playerbase at first due to the fact we have such a lack of access to the devs. I would assume all feedback, even the most hostile, would not be translated word for word to the devs.

So many newbies to the game.

Let me highlight an aspect of the JP playerbase.

When 2.0 came into being and all of the end game was released, the JP players threw a lot of shade at SE because the mechanics were party dependent, i.e if someone made a mistake, it may wipe the party.

If you or others have heard of the expression 'jump rope', it was derived from the JP playerbase as a heavy handed critic at SE for making encounters that weren't individual based (despite the better clear rate one JP side for endgame content compared to rest of the world)

Considering FF14 is based off the WoW model and that is a fact as the devs admit over and over, this came as a surprise to the JP playerbase.