The Reasoning behind The Sundering? (*6.0 Endwalker Spoilers*)

[Chyro]

I wonder why seemingly none of the unsundered ever went to Hydaelin to have a talk? If we could find her in the aethereal sea as lowly sundered fragments, it should be no problem for them to reach (especially emet - hades, keeper of the underworld or how it was called).

They know that hydaelin isn't just some god or mindless primal, that she has an ascian as her core same as elidibus is for zodiark. Someone they possibly even knew or were friends with (emet and vemat seemingly had quite some familiarity with each other). In all the time since the sundering they never thought to go talk to her, hear her reasons? Or at least clarification on the more precise circumstances of the sundering? To seek a dialogue with the 4th unsundered ascian / ancient, Venat.

[Cleretic]

I wonder why seemingly none of the unsundered ever went to Hydaelin to have a talk? If we could find her in the aethereal sea as lowly sundered fragments, it should be no problem for them to reach (especially emet - hades, keeper of the underworld or how it was called).

They know that hydaelin isn't just some god or mindless primal, that she has an ascian as her core same as elidibus is for zodiark. Someone they possibly even knew or were friends with (emet and vemat seemingly had quite some familiarity with each other). In all the time since the sundering they never thought to go talk to her, hear her reasons? Or at least clarification on the more precise circumstances of the sundering? To seek a dialogue with the 4th unsundered ascian / ancient, Venat.

Why would they go talk to her? They see her as the destroyer of all they knew and cared for, why the hell would you talk to that person?

If someone blew up my apartment building, my thought probably would not be 'I wonder what their side of the story is'.

[RyuDragnier]

I wonder why seemingly none of the unsundered ever went to Hydaelin to have a talk? If we could find her in the aethereal sea as lowly sundered fragments, it should be no problem for them to reach (especially emet - hades, keeper of the underworld or how it was called).

They know that hydaelin isn't just some god or mindless primal, that she has an ascian as her core same as elidibus is for zodiark. Someone they possibly even knew or were friends with (emet and vemat seemingly had quite some familiarity with each other). In all the time since the sundering they never thought to go talk to her, hear her reasons? Or at least clarification on the more precise circumstances of the sundering? To seek a dialogue with the 4th unsundered ascian / ancient, Venat.

Probably because of her protections and knowing there's a chance she'd Sunder them right there. Sunder one of them, and they've lost. They did not want to take the chance.

[Ilenya]

I wonder why seemingly none of the unsundered ever went to Hydaelin to have a talk? If we could find her in the aethereal sea as lowly sundered fragments, it should be no problem for them to reach (especially emet - hades, keeper of the underworld or how it was called).

They know that hydaelin isn't just some god or mindless primal, that she has an ascian as her core same as elidibus is for zodiark. Someone they possibly even knew or were friends with (emet and vemat seemingly had quite some familiarity with each other). In all the time since the sundering they never thought to go talk to her, hear her reasons? Or at least clarification on the more precise circumstances of the sundering? To seek a dialogue with the 4th unsundered ascian / ancient, Venat.

To be fair, did they *know* that Hydaelyn was Venat? Lahabrea wasn't involved with Elpis, obviously, but Emet would know...Except no, he lost his memory in Elpis as well. There's no real guarantee that either of them (Or Elidibus/Zodiark) would have known exactly who she was beyond the Hydaelyn persona.

[GDofLevin]

It's because the Ascians were tempered by Zodiark. Emet-Selch admits to as much in Shadowbringers. And if you've played all of FFXIV current story you know that once a primal tempers you your choice of free will is gone. Your devoted heart and soul to the primal who tempered you. And Zodiark didn't want to talk to Hydaelin he wanted more Aether and more followers to grow stronger and sustain himself. So those he tempered of course won't go to Hydaelin for a tea party to discuss the RIGHT way to save the world. Ultimately the Aumarotians chose to sacrifice people they deemed 'lesser' than themselves in order to sustain themselves and their 'paradise' forsaking the need to better the Star and instead better themselves. Hydaelin was disgusted by their nihilistic vain glory and sundered Etheirys for the sake of addressing the problems she was dealing with. And as that cutscene shows she regretted it had come to that but stood firm in her decision and walked along with all the suffering and suffering herself in the process. I don't understand why everyone is harping on Hydaelin and defending the Aumarotians though. The Aumarotians wanted to sacrifice others for themselves while Hydaelin sacrificed herself for others. It's eerily similar to todays world where doing the right thing is 'virtue signaling' and doing the wrong thing is 'freedom'. Shake my head.

[Lurina]

It's because the Ascians were tempered by Zodiark. Emet-Selch admits to as much in Shadowbringers. And if you've played all of FFXIV current story you know that once a primal tempers you your choice of free will is gone. Your devoted heart and soul to the primal who tempered you. And Zodiark didn't want to talk to Hydaelin he wanted more Aether and more followers to grow stronger and sustain himself.

Zodiark wasn't a mindless primal hungry for Aether, he was Elidibus/Themis. A person. And I think you missed the part of his backstory in 5.3 where he specifically took a form outside of his primal body to talk to Venat and her followers.

Ultimately the Aumarotians chose to sacrifice people they deemed 'lesser' than themselves in order to sustain themselves and their 'paradise' forsaking the need to better the Star and instead better themselves.

As we find out on Mare Lamentorum, the souls of their love ones were literally trapped inside Zodiark - the ones who gave their lives to foster the creation of the new life on the planet in the first place. While I don't think anyone would act like they were doing something heroic, it's hardly a black and white situation.

[Jandor]

Zodiark wasn't a mindless primal hungry for Aether, he was Elidibus/Themis. A person. And I think you missed the part of his backstory in 5.3 where he specifically took a form outside of his primal body to talk to Venat and her followers.

It's possible to temper yourself if you make yourself into a primal.

With hindsight, making the guy in charge of reconciliation into the heart of Zodiark maybe wasn't the best idea, something like that is bound to make him a tad bias.