You know what, deal. Give me a stance on Red Mage that locks out Verraise but gives a permament damage buff and we can talk. If mobility is irrelevant once everyone has learned how to move, raising is irrelevant once everyone has learned how to not die.

I'm tired of this "prog caster" bullshit some people are trying to push. Summoner belongs below Red Mage until it requires more than one brain cell to play.