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    Quote Originally Posted by Koldan View Post
    its not workaround if you can tripple weave suddenly, which you can do if you enter certain values into alexander itself (which they dont recommend cause its suddenly CHEATING but what does prevent you from doing that).
    It's not recommending not to reduce it as it then "suddenly CHEATING"... Having now audited the github sourcecode for it, reducing the minimum value below 75ms is something they don't recommend, as the server's cheat detection can then see it.

    Quoting from the code that does it....

    // The server will do sanity check on the frequency of action use requests,
    // and it's very easy to identify whether you're trying to go below allowed minimum value.
    They go on to warn

    Do NOT decrease this value. You've been warned.
    The reason why seems quite clear to me, above 75ms and someone on a very high ping (say Australia) will get performance somewhat like someone closer to the server (like North America) but someone in North America isn't going to see much of anything, as their ping is already low enough.

    However, the source code does make very clear that the server can see this, and clear to me too, it is going to put an account at risk should they look in their logs and act on the server's detection. Even for someone with 220ms ping they can say "hmmm, logs show he is playing at 75ms"

    It would be far better if SE fixed their janky netcode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    It's not recommending not to reduce it as it then "suddenly CHEATING"... Having now audited the github sourcecode for it, reducing the minimum value below 75ms is something they don't recommend, as the server's cheat detection can then see it.

    Quoting from the code that does it....



    They go on to warn



    The reason why seems quite clear to me, above 75ms and someone on a very high ping (say Australia) will get performance somewhat like someone closer to the server (like North America) but someone in North America isn't going to see much of anything, as their ping is already low enough.

    However, the source code does make very clear that the server can see this, and clear to me too, it is going to put an account at risk should they look in their logs and act on the server's detection. Even for someone with 220ms ping they can say "hmmm, logs show he is playing at 75ms"

    It would be far better if SE fixed their janky netcode.
    i mean absolutely no offense by this but i feel like a lot of foreigners severely underestimate just how large the united states is compared to japan or their home country.

    https://cdn1.matadornetwork.com/blog...NMtqA38S7k.png

    so big in fact going by this map that you could fit 30 european countries inside the entire mainland united states (not counting alaska or hawaii), so if you don't live on the west coast or even the midwest your ping is going to be crap. i'm on the east coast and i sit at about 90-95ms which is nearly 1/1000th of a second, which adds up pretty quickly
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    i mean absolutely no offense by this but i feel like a lot of foreigners severely underestimate just how large the united states is compared to japan or their home country.


    95ms ping is nothing. Absolutely nothing. One good thing about XIVAlex I read in the code was you can enjoy setting the action window to the 220-280ms range and see how we have been playing for the last 9 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post


    95ms ping is nothing. Absolutely nothing. One good thing about XIVAlex I read in the code was you can enjoy setting the action window to the 220-280ms range and see how we have been playing for the last 9 years.
    it's not a contest, high ping is universally undesirable
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