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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I just don't understand why these threads pop up every 3 days and reach 10 pages. There is an official statement from Yoshi-P about third-party tools. I timestamped the important part on why they don't scan your systems and only take action when users of these tools openly discriminate against other players.

    https://youtu.be/e_i6mjiGerU?t=208
    What you really dont understand is they DONT WANT TO but at some point WILL BE FORCED to act and that will be as "nice" as the groundmark change or the housing timers... worst case they gonna beef up ultimate so you barely make it WITH all kinds of plugins/hacks (idc for that but welp)

    (worst thing with the ground marks is we got no way of preserving em, yet its what? 3kb local data? let us set 3 for each duty....)


    ...argh why am I even doing this to myself... just as bad as corona discussions >_>
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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    Princess Whiskers
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    Exodus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Complaining about people making mini cactpot more braindead so they can just click with their head turned off seems like a REALLY freakin' weird hill to die on.
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    Sarevok Thordin
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    They devs have said they do not want to implement system resource hogging/invasive stuff like that.

    As for stuff mentioned in OP, it's pretty stupid when people can do things like that that make some encounters completely braindead when it does all the thinking for you.

    It also does stuff like OGCD lag compensation to avoid ability clipping on higher ping (AHEM MCH/RPR), which the devs should really just look at making standard anyway.
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    Sarevok Thordin
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Agreed, the netcode does need to be fixed up.

    Right now anyone on a ping in triple digits (or even 75ms) is going to struggle to play entire classes like MCH and RPR properly due to the horrendous clipping. RPR can be mitigated somewhat but MCH is a "Lol, nope".

    It's just a matter of getting it into the heads of the devs there IS a problem.
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    Johners Butcher
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    Paladin Lv 100
    It's called an anti-cheat, many MMOs and multiplayer games in general have them.
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    Eriane Elis
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Johners View Post
    It's called an anti-cheat, many MMOs and multiplayer games in general have them.
    No one wants this and Yoshi P said over and over again that neither does he. What we have installed is none of their business. He and other devs respects our privacy. Unlike the companies that force you to use easy anti cheat and other similar software.
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 100
    SE could use a rolling encrypt key that encrypts the log every time you log in.
    forcing 3rd party tools to read memory which they already can do to be more accurte.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    What the title says. I just found out that it literally tells you things in the game that you shouldn't know prior. For example. WHen you do the Gold Saucer Mini Cactpot, it will LIGHT UP the ones you want to click for the highest reward... That's absurd.

    Further. If any contest comes back like the Firmament, it will literally tell these people what to use each step to get the best quality. It can also adjust their ping to be near zero, allowing them to hit skills/nodes much faster than others. This doesn't need to be allowed and there has got to be a way to detect it. Clearly it's reading something in the game files to allow it to tell you what buttons on the mini cact you wanna click. Which is against ToS.
    I can get where you are coming from but this is not very game breaking. People make crafting macros based on there stats all the time which is not much different. As far as the mini cactpot goes its basic math. It sounds more like a mod for lazy people.
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    very interesting to see a lot of people who have not touched savage during relevant tiers complain about perceived cheating

    your alliance raids and normal raids are quite safe, dont worry
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    Koldan Dalen
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Imagine thinking that using all third party to improve your parse, call out for you and such is normal in multiplayer game tho. All those cacbot, alexander plugins people cant even raid on patch day until their 3rd party stuff fixed.
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