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  1. #71
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    Koldan's Avatar
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    They should ban alesander addon in some way, change how game works or something. It gives players competitive advantage (you can literally tripple weave with it which is not possible normally).
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  2. #72
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    ZedxKayn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koldan View Post
    They should ban alesander addon in some way, change how game works or something. It gives players competitive advantage (you can literally tripple weave with it which is not possible normally).
    It doesn't give an advantage, it's a workaround for the disadvantage high ping players have. You can't triple weave with it, you still clip if you try to.

    It'd be much better if the game's netcode would be switched to rollback but the devs never look outside of JP, where that is not an issue.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Wow just wow... Ik anyways any discussion is pointless there but dam you ppl impress me anew every time...

    Yeah, just wow how you always ignore people asking about your stance on community websites that do the same stuff as the third-party tools you so hate.
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  4. #74
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Mine? i never go there, so jokes on you. And the only reason im watching YT guides for ex trials AFTER I CLEARED is bc its impossible to do it like everyone else does it without knowing lol.

    You can argue all you want but its against the tos to change the client or game files, its unfair as you either force everyone to use it, SE to adjust to ppl using it or simply leave ppl out... but idc, do as you like, whatever...
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  5. #75
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Its not even about that, cheating and modding, makin things easier as theyre supposed to be gets us to a point where you either use it or be left behind....
    This doomsaying will never happen in XIV because none of these programs are supported by the dev team themselves nor are they enforced. At best, you'll see parse parties in PF but nobody really cares if you have a bunch of QoL plugins or triggers installed. The latter has existed for half a decade now; getting more elaborate with each expansion. They've still never become mandatory amongst the community. Modding harms absolutely no one. They're just texture changes to make the game appear differently for that player.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  6. #76
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    ArcaviusGreyashe's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Mine? i never go there, so jokes on you. And the only reason im watching YT guides for ex trials AFTER I CLEARED is bc its impossible to do it like everyone else does it without knowing lol.
    That's sad to say, but then, you're a pain if you're joining PF parties. If 7 people agree to do something and you force them to wipe because you don't understand, that's an issue. Nobody is forced to look at those videos, but it's a matter of respect for the people you're playing with, if y'all didn't agree to go blind.

    You can argue all you want but its against the tos to change the client or game files
    Alexander doesn't, nor do parsers, nor do those cactpot plugins or anything really.

    its unfair as you either force everyone to use it
    Nobody forces you to. You can choose to (and I didn't, for the record), but you don't have to.

    SE to adjust to ppl using it or simply leave ppl out... but idc, do as you like, whatever...
    That sounds like a perceived persecution issue. There's no incentive anywhere except maybe in hardcore roster to use any of them. It's also common practice among those to compare parses, which are already "illegal", yet looked away. Do we have to go back to the parser argument, or can we just agree that there is nobody forcing you to install anything but the game ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Koldan View Post
    It gives players competitive advantage (you can literally tripple weave with it which is not possible normally).
    I heard from my gf's best friend cousin's son that it also lets you clip through AoEs and stand in it while taking no damage. That's so unfair bruh.
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    Last edited by ArcaviusGreyashe; 01-08-2022 at 05:22 AM.

  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    The only way the GMs/STF would be able to detect the use of Alexander (or any third-party program) would be to install a separate software onto a player’s computer that scans each of XIV’s files and the computer’s system for these tools and/or any modifications. However, this sort of software is illegal in a lot of countries (including Japan, last I checked), and with this being a global game, SE attempting to attach it to XIV would be impossible.
    They could use nProtect GameGuard like PSO2, if it detects any 3rd party program running that the game devs dont like it gives you Error 1013 and force you to close the game, crashes the game or gives BSOD. If that's not enough, implement checksum file that the game checks and updates regularly while you're online.
    In PSO2 if the devs find people using parser they ban accounts without warning for cheating.

    I guess the anti parser people would be happy.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post

    Further. If any contest comes back like the Firmament, it will literally tell these people what to use each step to get the best quality. .
    Even without any progams and plugins there are macros being posted by people to just do the entire HQ craft with one button. All you need is gear. And it's a built in feature in game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post

    It can also adjust their ping to be near zero, allowing them to hit skills/nodes much faster than others.
    That's not how ping works
    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post

    Clearly it's reading something in the game files to allow it to tell you what buttons on the mini cact you wanna click.
    It just works on approx numbers. If you have 3/2 in one line it will light up as there is a high chance it will get 3/2/1
    It also counts the same numbers you can see and shows the highest up possible outcome. If I understood what you meant. It's also what a person can do if they decide to waste couple of mins on counting and analyze themselves.
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  9. #79
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    Naizakane's Avatar
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    Daca'a Fashonti
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    Quote Originally Posted by NzomiKujo View Post
    They could use nProtect GameGuard like PSO2, if it detects any 3rd party program running that the game devs dont like it gives you Error 1013 and force you to close the game, crashes the game or gives BSOD. If that's not enough, implement checksum file that the game checks and updates regularly while you're online.
    In PSO2 if the devs find people using parser they ban accounts without warning for cheating.

    I guess the anti parser people would be happy.
    I can't quite give you a short summary of how funny this is to anyone who knows about OverParse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    Okay great. But if it's random, any tool would be unable to predict it. You know why? Because they get their info from the server at the same time your client does. There is literally nothing any tool could do to somehow read the future.
    In E4S, Cactbot would tell you the safespots for the left/right punches, which were random and only communicated via an animation, before the animation tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Not going to lie isn't moding just one of the many benefits if PC gaming? When did it become so vilified? I mean competitive integrity is a stance I can see but it is not like FFXIV has prize pools going. So for the most part it is for personal fulfillment, if someone wants to cheapen that experience so be it. If they want to lie about it and try to get into public eye if they do not have the ability to back up their lies they will be found out rather quickly. If they do it just to flex how does that hurt anyone really?

    So what exactly is the problem.
    Modding is fine in a single player game because it doesn't matter if the mod gives one player an advantage over other players they'll never interact with.

    Modding is not fine in a multiplayer game because it creates advantage only for those who have access to the mod. It removes fairness from the multiplayer environment.

    Strange how people can't understand how that's a problem. You might as well argue that if mods are okay, then all forms of cheating are okay because that's what cheating is all about - getting an advantage that others don't have.
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