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  1. #41
    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    But I don't think that they are "doing a lazy job". They just judged viera hats a lower priority addition than other things. And I agree with this decision.
    Easy to say this when you aren't affected by the limitation. Why are you even here if not to piss people off?
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    But I don't think that they are "doing a lazy job". They just judged viera hats a lower priority addition than other things. And I agree with this decision.
    It’s a low priority because people like you can’t relate to the issue and keep acting like it’s a minor thing. People like you are instead demanding butt sliders and playable ivalician moogles while Viera keep getting pushed to the back because high demand keeps winning. You’re apart of the problem.

    instead of people demanding they fix the Viera situation over 2 years ago, people instead were demanding the gender counterpart.

    Play either Viera or Hrothgar for 2+ years THEN you have a right to tell us hats and hair doesn’t matter. Don’t play a race that gets everything and say otherwise because that’s just not valid.
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  3. #43
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    The only saving grace is these headpieces don't look very good, but yeah viera/hrothgar shouldn't be left out of a portion of seasonal event rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    It’s a low priority because people like you can’t relate to the issue and keep acting like it’s a minor thing. People like you are instead demanding butt sliders and playable ivalician moogles while Viera keep getting pushed to the back because high demand keeps winning. You’re apart of the problem.

    instead of people demanding they fix the Viera situation over 2 years ago, people instead were demanding the gender counterpart.

    Play either Viera or Hrothgar for 2+ years THEN you have a right to tell us hats and hair doesn’t matter. Don’t play a race that gets everything and say otherwise because that’s just not valid.
    Yep. It's easy for people who play a race that has everything to shrug this issue off. But it's still an issue, and one I really wish they would address so I can go back to playing Hrothgar. lol
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    Honestly, this far on with Viera and Hrothgar being a thing, it's really surprising they haven't ensured more of the newer head gears work with them. It definitely shouldn't still be happening. At least not in the large quantities that is is happening. As has been proven by other gear, a lot of the older stuff hid/let ears/horns clip through. While it isn't an ideal solution, doing it that way would be a "band-aid on the dam" temporary solution until they can get things properly fitted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    It’s a low priority because people like you can’t relate to the issue and keep acting like it’s a minor thing. People like you are instead demanding butt sliders and playable ivalician moogles while Viera keep getting pushed to the back because high demand keeps winning. You’re apart of the problem.

    instead of people demanding they fix the Viera situation over 2 years ago, people instead were demanding the gender counterpart.

    Play either Viera or Hrothgar for 2+ years THEN you have a right to tell us hats and hair doesn’t matter. Don’t play a race that gets everything and say otherwise because that’s just not valid.
    To be fair, even if they don't play a viera/hroth, they are allowed to have an opinion on whether or not they feel it's worth developer time. Some people don't overly care for glams/character options, and that's all fine and dandy.

    As far as people pushing for missing genders first over hair/hats, I'm OK with that personally as I feel like missing genders is/was the bigger offense. When ARR launched, they made a point to add (f)Roeg, (f)Highlanders and (m)Miqo'te which were all missing from 1.0, but then they backpedaled something fierce when it came to buns and catdaddies. With that said, I'm still of the opinion that neither race should have launched with restrictions at all.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 01-08-2022 at 05:59 AM.

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    These hats are ugly as sin imo but I still agree do have a like lmao
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    The graphs are not conclusive since they don't take into account the players that were one of the limited races and then switched back. My FC alone has a few but that's just anecdotal. Either way, viera and hrothgar are in a sorry state.
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    Although I expected this with the event, it was still a little disappointing to see that they didn't spend a little time or thought into perhaps adding some additional rewards to the NPC.

    Seeing that the only rewards for this event are head glams that a portion of their players, through no fault of their own, cannot wear. Albeit ugly head glams that I would never wear anyway. But still a little thought could have gone into the rewards adding some additional choices. Even if it was something minor like fireworks or confetti. LOL

    But also moving forward to still be adding new head gear that is not visible on certain races seems to be a little disappointing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    To be fair, even if they don't play a viera/hroth, they are allowed to have an opinion on whether or not they feel it's worth developer time. Some people don't overly care for glams/character options, and that's all fine and dandy.
    But if the Viera and Hrothgar were to suggest we get something else as compensation for our already limited race, other races would (and have done) throw a fit and demand the things we suggest. It's such a double standard thing and I have no issue calling people out for it because it's such a child-like mentality. Allegedly, the developers said that gradually they would release more race-specific hairstyles for Viera and Hrothgar due to their uniqueness but we didn't even get that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    As far as people requesting missing genders instead of hair/hats...I think that was the wiser move personally. When ARR launched, they made a point to add (f)Roeg, (f)Highlanders and (m)Miqo'te which were all missing from 1.0, but then they backpedaled something fierce when it came to buns and catdaddies. Missing genders is the bigger offense IMO, but I'm still of the opinion that neither race should have launched with restrictions at all.
    I don't think so, SE basically created more work for themselves by doing that. Surely the sensible thing to do would be to focus on the already-existing races before implementing the gender counterparts with the exact same issues. SE even said a few times that both Viera and Hrothgar are apparently 'unique races' but they never have the time to put the work into actually improving them. They're giving us breadcrumbs and taking their time with it.

    In Endwalker we received 6 hairstyles that were probably the easiest to bring in that barely anyone wears, if you look around majority are still wearing their race exclusive hairstyles and that speaks volumes. The developers are not really giving me much faith in their abilities because I barely even have a shred of optimism about what's to come in 6.1 for Hrothgar. You are very right though, neither races should have been brought in with such severe restrictions and especially not when the developers didn't have a plan.. It's all up in the air and it's unprofessional.
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    Last edited by SherlottaEryut; 01-08-2022 at 06:11 AM. Reason: Wording

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