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  1. #61
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    Commander_Justitia's Avatar
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    Ash Primordial
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DezereDawn View Post
    Lol, no

    PVP in this game is a hollow shell only played for rewards or an extremely minor portion of the population due to the game's in baked latency and extremely disjointed pvp kits

    it needs a top to bottom rework before it'll ever get any sizable amount of players outside of tomestone events or daily frontline queues for exp, neither of which are because PVP is any good.
    The issue you mentioned is not a PvP issue though, it is a 'game'&'community' issue. The lag is in every content, and the comunity wanted a more casual mode that made it look too boring and unengaging the last years. It was actually pretty balanced at some points.

    I dislike too, how they take more and more PvP sets and reskin them for PvE. I also think Deepshadow PvE Tome Set from last expansion was the 2nd PvP Set Shadowbringers was supposed to get, but already then they must have scrapped it in order to release on time. Usually PvP always got 2 PvP sets during 1 addon. Now only 1.
    Why would I continue to play PvP if the sets just get added to Crafters later? Should we add savage gear to PvP too?
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  2. #62
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    EmpyreanHelios's Avatar
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    Quies Animus
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    Zalera
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    Paladin Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Functionally we don't need it because they gave us the job gear that scales down to 89 instead, but it's still disappointing – and really there's at least some practical use for putting appealing gear in the X9 dungeon, which is to lure people into running it directly for glamour. So it's a pity that we got nothing. I'd take another recycled set over nothing.
    See, I’m confused over this too. I thought the whole point of the unique dungeon sets was so that those dungeons can still get activity (outside of just rouletting into them) and help out new players.

    The new gear sets being reused are coming from those unique dungeon sets like Ghimlyt, Swallow, and Skalla. So…why even do those dungeons anymore? You can just buy the sets. What are they doing/thinking?
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  3. #63
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    VerdeLuck's Avatar
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    White Mage Lv 100
    If they're going to reuse gear sets can they at least fix them up so viera and hroths can wear the headgear?
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  4. #64
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    I was also triggered when I saw that the new crafted 90 set had the rotten skin of the PvP set with an ancient Rome feel.

    It's not even in the Endwalker vibe, I don't mind that garlemaldais are between a certain style and something else, but this skin recycling sucks.

    I was expecting a cool new skin that would absolutely make me want to get that new set for the glam, nothing, it just sucks recycled skin.

    That he recycled skins, it would have been nice too the Ivalice skin where it was to cast and heal a kind of kimono, but in a dyable version, I would have found it too cool, but here... At some point we were treated to Void Ark, Dun Scaith, etc. dyable raid skins.

    I guess the "cool" skins are on the Mogstation, it's a shame.
    I don't entirely agree that it's '' not in Endwalker vibe ''.
    There is an Ancient Greece and Greek Mythology theme in Endwalker.
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  5. #65
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EmpyreanHelios View Post
    The new gear sets being reused are coming from those unique dungeon sets like Ghimlyt, Swallow, and Skalla. So…why even do those dungeons anymore? You can just buy the sets. What are they doing/thinking?
    Variants are variants. Dedicated glamourers will still be running the dungeon because they need the version that comes with gold trim instead of silver.

    On the other hand, putting them in levelling dungeons is a blessing because they come with a guaranteed drop at the end.

    That said, I think the endgame dungeons should have guaranteed drops as well once they're no longer current. RNG is silly and you have to run things a miserable amount of times to get what you want. Even with guaranteed drops you can be stuck running it a number of times, but at least you know there's a finish line.
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  6. #66
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I don't entirely agree that it's '' not in Endwalker vibe ''.
    There is an Ancient Greece and Greek Mythology theme in Endwalker.
    Exactly, Greek, so why Roman glams? I hope I won't get a "it's the same" reply.

    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    Should we add savage gear to PvP too?
    Honestly, I wish. Since not liking pvp is good enough excuse to egt those glams elsewhere, why shouldnt't people who don't like savage be able to get dyable raid gear elsewhere too?
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  7. #67
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Exactly, Greek, so why Roman glams? I hope I won't get a "it's the same" reply.
    They struck me more as Greek personally.
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  8. #68
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    Quies Animus
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    Zalera
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    Paladin Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Variants are variants. Dedicated glamourers will still be running the dungeon because they need the version that comes with gold trim instead of silver.

    On the other hand, putting them in levelling dungeons is a blessing because they come with a guaranteed drop at the end.

    That said, I think the endgame dungeons should have guaranteed drops as well once they're no longer current. RNG is silly and you have to run things a miserable amount of times to get what you want. Even with guaranteed drops you can be stuck running it a number of times, but at least you know there's a finish line.
    I definitely agree that the endgame dungeon sets should at least guarantee you a piece per run, it would allow activity and reduce the awful amounts of runs that you have to do to get a specific piece to drop.

    What I don’t like is that they should have reused other stuff, like the Saint’s Arbor (hard) set or something because that still can’t be dyed.

    And not, you know, shire again.
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  9. #69
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    Novia Marius
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Exactly, Greek, so why Roman glams? I hope I won't get a "it's the same" reply.
    because chitons and strappy sandals with wings aren't exclusive to roman fashion.
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  10. #70
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmpyreanHelios View Post
    What I don’t like is that they should have reused other stuff, like the Saint’s Arbor (hard) set or something because that still can’t be dyed.

    And not, you know, shire again.
    Definitely agreed there. We just got Shire, it was already dyeable twice over, and the new versions have a weird thing with permanent green highlights so you can't even dye them freely.

    I'd rather get the Arboretum Normal sets (Plague/Thief/Duelist) because those are also waiting on dyeable versions and they have a stronger link to Sharlayan, appearing at both the Arboretum and the Gubal Library. The Royal Volunteer sets, on the other hand, were clearly intended for the Burn and only ended up in the Arboretum due to being in the same patch.
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