so lets talk about reusing gear sets

[EmpyreanHelios]

Functionally we don't need it because they gave us the job gear that scales down to 89 instead, but it's still disappointing – and really there's at least some practical use for putting appealing gear in the X9 dungeon, which is to lure people into running it directly for glamour. So it's a pity that we got nothing. I'd take another recycled set over nothing.

See, I’m confused over this too. I thought the whole point of the unique dungeon sets was so that those dungeons can still get activity (outside of just rouletting into them) and help out new players.

The new gear sets being reused are coming from those unique dungeon sets like Ghimlyt, Swallow, and Skalla. So…why even do those dungeons anymore? You can just buy the sets. What are they doing/thinking?

[Iscah]

The new gear sets being reused are coming from those unique dungeon sets like Ghimlyt, Swallow, and Skalla. So…why even do those dungeons anymore? You can just buy the sets. What are they doing/thinking?

Variants are variants. Dedicated glamourers will still be running the dungeon because they need the version that comes with gold trim instead of silver.

On the other hand, putting them in levelling dungeons is a blessing because they come with a guaranteed drop at the end.

That said, I think the endgame dungeons should have guaranteed drops as well once they're no longer current. RNG is silly and you have to run things a miserable amount of times to get what you want. Even with guaranteed drops you can be stuck running it a number of times, but at least you know there's a finish line.

[VerdeLuck]

If they're going to reuse gear sets can they at least fix them up so viera and hroths can wear the headgear?

[EmpyreanHelios]

Variants are variants. Dedicated glamourers will still be running the dungeon because they need the version that comes with gold trim instead of silver.

On the other hand, putting them in levelling dungeons is a blessing because they come with a guaranteed drop at the end.

That said, I think the endgame dungeons should have guaranteed drops as well once they're no longer current. RNG is silly and you have to run things a miserable amount of times to get what you want. Even with guaranteed drops you can be stuck running it a number of times, but at least you know there's a finish line.

I definitely agree that the endgame dungeon sets should at least guarantee you a piece per run, it would allow activity and reduce the awful amounts of runs that you have to do to get a specific piece to drop.

What I don’t like is that they should have reused other stuff, like the Saint’s Arbor (hard) set or something because that still can’t be dyed.

And not, you know, shire again.

[Iscah]

What I don’t like is that they should have reused other stuff, like the Saint’s Arbor (hard) set or something because that still can’t be dyed.

And not, you know, shire again.

Definitely agreed there. We just got Shire, it was already dyeable twice over, and the new versions have a weird thing with permanent green highlights so you can't even dye them freely.

I'd rather get the Arboretum Normal sets (Plague/Thief/Duelist) because those are also waiting on dyeable versions and they have a stronger link to Sharlayan, appearing at both the Arboretum and the Gubal Library. The Royal Volunteer sets, on the other hand, were clearly intended for the Burn and only ended up in the Arboretum due to being in the same patch.

[Jandor]

For the record, we only got like 2 unique leveling sets in Shadowbringers too IIRC, same as Endwalker. The first crafted set was a reskin in Shadowbringers too.

I think it was the same deal for Stormblood too? Yanxian stuff might have been new too, but I guess that's balanced out by most of the Nomad stuff being exactly the same but in different colours.

[LisSquid]

Reskins have always been a thing, but they usually come with the caveat of either being: Dyable, role swap, or more detailed color palette. All the current noise is due to every reskin being near the same for the same roles they were assigned to.

[Takamorisan]

The crafted gear being old PvP gear is really disappointing for sure. The tome gear and raid gear is fine to be honest.
Now regarding glamour systems in general, have a decent glamour library and being able to dye certain parts of the armor instead of everything is stuff that is years on the community wishlist.

Game needs a new engine and investment in general for sure or it will prevent growth in the future, hope the CEO of SE is paying attention stuff besides NFT garbage.

[Eien713]

As a huge glamour enthusiast, new gear sets are among the things I look forward to the most whenever any new content is released. I was also extremely disappointed by all the recolors in this expansion, especially since the choice of reused gear left a lot to be desired. Like, can we please not have 3 different recolors of the same set (e.g. WoD in ShB and Shire in EW)? And that PvP set recolor was the last nail in the coffin. Like many others have said, why not swap the gear between the roles? I'd love to get some of the healing gear for my BRD. Healing gear is almost always the one that fits my taste the most and, in my opinion, the best for female characters. I want my female character to look feminine even though I'm not playing a healer, and I'm sure healer mains who play male characters would appreciate getting something other than robes.

[RatKing]

Lol, no

PVP in this game is a hollow shell only played for rewards or an extremely minor portion of the population due to the game's in baked latency and extremely disjointed pvp kits

it needs a top to bottom rework before it'll ever get any sizable amount of players outside of tomestone events or daily frontline queues for exp, neither of which are because PVP is any good.

People like you literally get dunked 60 times in rival wings and never queue again only to endlessly whine on the forums pvp is dead. Its the only form of content in this game that has variables that isn't a wipe in easy normal content. Its literally the whining every single first time pvper in other mmos has where they have a nuclear meltdown because a long term pvp enjoyer dunked them effortlessly.