so lets talk about reusing gear sets

[DezereDawn]

The issue you mentioned is not a PvP issue though, it is a 'game'&'community' issue. The lag is in every content, and the comunity wanted a more casual mode that made it look too boring and unengaging the last years. It was actually pretty balanced at some points.

I dislike too, how they take more and more PvP sets and reskin them for PvE. I also think Deepshadow PvE Tome Set from last expansion was the 2nd PvP Set Shadowbringers was supposed to get, but already then they must have scrapped it in order to release on time. Usually PvP always got 2 PvP sets during 1 addon. Now only 1.
Why would I continue to play PvP if the sets just get added to Crafters later? Should we add savage gear to PvP too?

it's definitely a pvp issue more than PVE just due to player movement being far more affected by latency and causing a LOT more ghosting on anything other than perfect connections.

Maybe PVP used to be good, but as it currently stands it's not, it needs some serious love before i think they should even be locking those top 100 sets behind it.

anyways, this thread is about reusing sets and i think that's a fine thing to do IF and only if they do proper dye changes and some cross classing, otherwise it comes off as kind of lame.

[Kuroka]

As for it being "taken from NPCs", I like that it gives the sets a logic and a purpose for existing in the game world. They make sense in the setting instead of wondering where the in-game makers got the idea.

Yet Id prefered the Exodus set for the tome and the new one first... idk...

Not saying I agree or disagree with the situation, but this is kind of a norm for the “leveling” dungeons. For the most part the few leveling dungeons feature recolors of previous-but-obsolete dungeon gear, often on jobs that didn’t have them before (eg. Stormblood’s Ghost Barque Mask of Maiming from Sirensong is the same model as the crafted Beech Mask of Healing).

Yes but thats exaclty the point, its role swapped, so for example a ninja can use my beloved healer set and it dyes not quite the same, which is pretty neat.

[Jandor]

For the record, we only got like 2 unique leveling sets in Shadowbringers too IIRC, same as Endwalker. The first crafted set was a reskin in Shadowbringers too.

I think it was the same deal for Stormblood too? Yanxian stuff might have been new too, but I guess that's balanced out by most of the Nomad stuff being exactly the same but in different colours.

[LisSquid]

Reskins have always been a thing, but they usually come with the caveat of either being: Dyable, role swap, or more detailed color palette. All the current noise is due to every reskin being near the same for the same roles they were assigned to.

[Takamorisan]

The crafted gear being old PvP gear is really disappointing for sure. The tome gear and raid gear is fine to be honest.
Now regarding glamour systems in general, have a decent glamour library and being able to dye certain parts of the armor instead of everything is stuff that is years on the community wishlist.

Game needs a new engine and investment in general for sure or it will prevent growth in the future, hope the CEO of SE is paying attention stuff besides NFT garbage.

[Terin]

Not gonna lie, I've been a little disappointed how many recolors I've recognized. That's always one of the best things about new dungeons, to me.

At least the AF sets are wholly unique... right?

[Eien713]

As a huge glamour enthusiast, new gear sets are among the things I look forward to the most whenever any new content is released. I was also extremely disappointed by all the recolors in this expansion, especially since the choice of reused gear left a lot to be desired. Like, can we please not have 3 different recolors of the same set (e.g. WoD in ShB and Shire in EW)? And that PvP set recolor was the last nail in the coffin. Like many others have said, why not swap the gear between the roles? I'd love to get some of the healing gear for my BRD. Healing gear is almost always the one that fits my taste the most and, in my opinion, the best for female characters. I want my female character to look feminine even though I'm not playing a healer, and I'm sure healer mains who play male characters would appreciate getting something other than robes.

[RatKing]

Lol, no

PVP in this game is a hollow shell only played for rewards or an extremely minor portion of the population due to the game's in baked latency and extremely disjointed pvp kits

it needs a top to bottom rework before it'll ever get any sizable amount of players outside of tomestone events or daily frontline queues for exp, neither of which are because PVP is any good.

People like you literally get dunked 60 times in rival wings and never queue again only to endlessly whine on the forums pvp is dead. Its the only form of content in this game that has variables that isn't a wipe in easy normal content. Its literally the whining every single first time pvper in other mmos has where they have a nuclear meltdown because a long term pvp enjoyer dunked them effortlessly.

[BaconBits]

Definitely agreed there. We just got Shire, it was already dyeable twice over, and the new versions have a weird thing with permanent green highlights so you can't even dye them freely.

I'd rather get the Arboretum Normal sets (Plague/Thief/Duelist) because those are also waiting on dyeable versions and they have a stronger link to Sharlayan, appearing at both the Arboretum and the Gubal Library. The Royal Volunteer sets, on the other hand, were clearly intended for the Burn and only ended up in the Arboretum due to being in the same patch.

The fact that crafters got dyeable versions of the Plague gear before casters/healers will continue to be a sore point for me.

[LariaKirin]

I think we completely deserve it.

People pressure Squeenix into creating new races that require several expansions worth of gear to be adjusted for every job, then turn around and make a surprise Pikachu face when corners have to be cut.