FFXIV is super interesting BUT then why?

[Kitahrox]

In fact, are you grandpa or grandma? How old are you to have such a closed mind? The pvp only clings to the pve, to be serious for pve and to be elusive in pvp it opens the experience, and puts you in difficulty even if you train. Responsiveness to each situation in both PvP and PvPvE.

[Snorky]

In fact, are you grandpa or grandma? How old are you to have such a closed mind? The pvp only clings to the pve for serious for pve and improbable in pvp it opens the experience, and puts you in difficulty even if you train. Responsiveness to each situation in both PvP and PvPvE.

Old enough and so probably been playing these games longer than you've been alive.

[Kitahrox]

I'm 34 years old and I played my first FF With Cloud, and I don't understand how it's possible that there is no real PvP existing here. In 2022 O.o ... Don't worry, pvp here won't change your usual style of play

[Krotoan]

BUT the only real interest of an mmo is increased competitiveness. TACTICS are to PvE what IMPROVISATION is to PVP.

Thank you for reading.

FFXIV is a "theme park" MMO.
... At what point when anyone goes to Disneyland do they need to .. "go to disneyland" better than the other people in the park?

I'm 34 years old and I played my first FF With Cloud, and I don't understand how it's possible that there is no real PvP existing here. In 2022 O.o ... Don't worry, pvp here won't change your usual style of play

Because PVP intially was implemented poorly and everyone just kind of moved on and enjoyed the rest of the game. It's pretty demonstrably true that an MMO can survive pretty well without it being a major component.

[Lihtleita]

FFXIV is a "theme park" MMO.
... At what point when anyone goes to Disneyland do they need to .. "go to disneyland" better than the other people in the park?

tbh if disneyland were a pvp zone id go more often

[Krotoan]

tbh if disneyland were a pvp zone id go more often

... won't deny.. had that urge a couple times.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Pvp changes will come later in the cycle; I think 6.1. Activity should pick up again around that time.

I hate how your message literally went under the radar, so I'll push it and also provide a link to the source of the 6.1 PvP updates.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...811-19-2021%29

Go to post #3, it will line out a lot of the pvp changes, but to give you a TL;DR:

- 4v4 Feast replaced by 5v5 Crystal Conflict, which has no role restrictions (just no double jobs in a single team)
- Battle pass system to encourage playing pvp in general, all pvp modes will improve progress, will have rewards tied to it and previous battle pass rewards may be obtained via tokens if you were late (anti-FOMO)
[ ! ] This will not replace the Top 100 Ranked rewards that will continue to exist with Crystal Conflict, Season =/= Series (battle pass)
- in accordance to facilitate play without role restrictions and thus make playing without a healer less a pain, the jobs will receive MAJOR reworks in the following ways:

>> Every job will have their role-based Limit Break replaced by a job-unique one, most likely with different effects and powers (think Overwatch ultimate abilities)
>> Due to a new expansion, the new toolkits will be reintroduced in this patch, revamping most jobs
>> Healing / survival will be distributed to shift the agency over someone's survival to the individual, facilitating less stress on healers who are present and reducing the need for healers.
>> [THEORY] Because of this, healers may shift to more supportive roles, potentially increasing their damage output as well in exchange for losing healing power.

I'd like to add that we knew about them working on a large pvp overhaul for a LONG time now. So as abyssmal the official support of pvp has been in the meantime, does not actually mean they are not working on it. It is just that the problem of PvP additions are fundamentally more difficult to implement than most think. So please, give them time.

[Exosapien]

I'm actually excited for the Crystal Conflict mode. I don't PvP now, but I'll likely dabble in it there. I'll be glad for it if it is successful, because more side-content is always nice.

[Kitahrox]

An MMO that works best is an MMO that succeeds in all aspects, if we will not measure each other to be the best of all, have simply been ordinary people without exceptional destiny, measure ourselves against each other makes the game cool and attractive. It's not real life, it's not because you're going to eat yourself a 'fast blade' that you'll be hospitalized for 1 month later or that your head will be cut off in the game, you're also fighting for a pvp goal. It's fun sometimes.

Here there is only the population that operates at low revs, your car drives a long time and is damaged little (you go far without anything damaged to the engine[Unfounded nasty criticism] ) But on the other hand, A million cars have stopped elsewhere than here and its past to something else. I say that ignoring the pvp aspect is simply silly (bad mathematical deal)

[ScriGar]

ngl mate if you want a pvp focused game, this isnt for you.
Go back to WOW or try New World if thats what you really want because FFXIV has never and will never be about that