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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    The term MMORPG has been warped to the point that the original definition doesn't really hold up.

    FFXIV, Black Desert, and Destiny 2 are all vastly different games but all are considered MMORPGs today.
    Ff14 is an MMORPG
    Black Desert is a MMOARPG (action role playing game)
    Destiny is a MMOFPSRPG (first person shooter rpg)

    You gotta remember the sub categories lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxcel View Post
    Ff14 is an MMORPG
    Black Desert is a MMOARPG (action role playing game)
    Destiny is a MMOFPSRPG (first person shooter rpg)

    You gotta remember the sub categories lol


    The more it sounds like someone getting a firehose to the face, the less it's going to be like Everquest.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Didn't they pulled the plug out of new sales?


    Maybe I'm missing something here. Unless of course Yoshi lied to us yet again.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    OP unfortunately your message is kind of getting lost in some unintentionally hilarious comments ( you're equating that liking PVP means that anyone necessarily has a certain amount amount of testosterone - whaaaat????)

    If you had done some research, unfortunately, you would have discovered that PVP does exist in this game BUT it is neglected, I do believe that it does deserve more attention and fortunately we will be getting a new arena soon.

    If you've been waiting 30 minutes to get into PVP, you're likely either queuing at a dead time for the wrong content. at peak times in Frontline, for example, queues can pop instantly. If however you're trying to get into Rival Wings or the Feast then that could explain why you're waiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    OP unfortunately your message is kind of getting lost in some unintentionally hilarious comments ( you're equating that liking PVP means that anyone necessarily has a certain amount amount of testosterone - whaaaat????)
    Women don't like PVP this is well known.

    ...actually I don't but...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gespenst View Post
    Women don't like PVP this is well known.

    ...actually I don't but...
    The people I work with should be happy that Frontlines exists. That's all that I'll say.
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    Most MMO players don't PvP. Full PvP MMOs tend to fail. The only real exception is Black Desert Online and that only gets by because it's really about upskirting your toons while standing around somewhere, then using VISA to get wins in PvP...
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    Striving for perfection is the path to one's downfall. 'Tis the paradox of the immaculate carrot. | Jah Bless. One God, One Aim, and One Destiny - Marcus Garvey.
    Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, everywhere is war - Ras Tafari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    Most MMO players don't PvP. Full PvP MMOs tend to fail. The only real exception is Black Desert Online and that only gets by because it's really about upskirting your toons while standing around somewhere, then using VISA to get wins in PvP...
    That's far from truth. There's a place for PvP in MMO's. And BDO is not even your best example of a PvP game.
    That being said, if you enjoy PvP this isn't the game for you. Search for this elsewhere. You QUEUE for frontline, and it's just people AFK/spamming emotes, the players here aren't very interested in that. Doesn't help that the community is full of the "us vs them" mentality, as if enjoying PvP is some sin that makes game bad or PvE bad.

    I enjoy PvP as well but not in FFXIV. Try Albion, E.V.E Online, even GW2 might be up to your alley. I think that Sword of Legends has arenas as well, might check that.
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    I find the Frontline to be fun and I can que for it on any of my jobs over level 30. I find that's enough pvp for me by doing a few of them a week. If they added World PvP I would more than likely quit unless there was a toggle to turn it off forever. I had enough of that toxic crap while I played WoW, one of the may reason I play FF now is because of no world pvp ever. In my humble opinion no world pvp is why this game is no where near as toxic as WoW is now.
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    The lack of testosterone was an expression to try to make understand, like Mexican food without Chillies, salt and pepper, the game is well founded in itself, because it is final fantasy and from the point of view RPG it is the bosses, But the duel function, with PvPvE on Localized Occurrence of Random Events (To activated if you wish), The wolf lair with access to a pvp map, an arena system,.. Not necessarily a dlc with only pvp, new pve content is great, it's sure but this pvp dimension will make that, many players would do live on twitch or YT or... The tougher the competition, the more players would start to love the FINAL FANTASY epic, Who will also start the PvE. PvP To heat up and PvE to calm down, Here I just invented a new class with the gauge PVE/PVP to have full control of this caractère.Seriously with just the above improvements and a CHAOS map for example available at the wolf l'air with a new nPC that would include spriggan, louisoix, cerberus, moogle, oméga, ragnarok with a little scenario quest and so on.. For Earn pvp credits = Will become the best MMORPG. This game could be the best FF#1
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