So you're telling me..

[Kazimere]

Then give SAM a raid buff. None of the melee should be competing with SAM. If they were then it defeats the entire point of SAM being a selfish DPS. RPR not getting a huge potency nerf is ridiculous.

What? So, you're telling me that Samurai should be beating all melee in both aDPS and rDPS? No, thats not broken or anything.

Keep the salt coming. I love it.

[Scuoll]

Patch notes were pretty good, i dont know how much the specific changes impact the rankings damage wise up but balance is gonna be at least somewhat better. I personally think reaper's skill floor/cap is still an issue, and an underrated advantage aswell when it comes to more difficult content, where your output doesnt tank as much while you are learning. I guess we'll see after savage.

Crest halved and still the best melee defensive, but id say now the biggest outlier in this balance department is drg not having one instead of another job getting a mini healer cd, unlikely that changes anytime soon but the change is good.
In an ideal world it would have been better to just give all the other melees some skill of similar power, but it was just unreasonable to have 1 class have it while others sit there for a couple years to maybe get it next xpac.

Keep the salt coming. I love it.

Very cringe, at least when you were challenging people to run content so you could wipe the floor with them it was funny

[Ransu]

What? So, you're telling me that Samurai should be beating all melee in both aDPS and rDPS? No, thats not broken or anything.

Keep the salt coming. I love it.

They should be outright the top of all melee considering the only thing they do is dps and bring zero utility. Reaper being able to not only keep up, but out perform them in most fights makes bringing a SAM into a fight pointless. The same applies to MNK imo. RPR and MNK both are overperforming.

[Kazimere]

They should be outright the top of all melee considering the only thing they do is dps and bring zero utility. Reaper being able to not only keep up, but out perform them in most fights makes bringing a SAM into a fight pointless. The same applies to MNK imo. RPR and MNK both are overperforming.

They are outright top dps, in the bracket that gauges that: aDPS. Reaper, monk, drg, and nin should be outperforming samurai in rdps. It's a problem that only monk and reaper do at the moment. The fact that Samurai was beating everyone in rDPS and aDPS in StB is a problem and it was broken. If you're only defense is that they bring nothing else to the table except for dps, then you're going to need a stronger argument.

[tearagion]

They are outright top dps, in the bracket that gauges that: aDPS. Reaper, monk, drg, and nin should be outperforming samurai in rdps. It's a problem that only monk and reaper do at the moment. The fact that Samurai was beating everyone in rDPS and aDPS in StB is a problem and it was broken. If you're only defense is that they bring nothing else to the table except for dps, then you're going to need a stronger argument.

He doesn't need a stronger argument, the other competing melees (mnk and reaper) both bring raid hp recovery options so they should be marginally lower in rDPS than the class that doesn't bring anything but damage. If SAM is being beaten in rDPS outside of the top percentiles it probably means it's bordering not worth bringing at all in those top percentiles as they will tend to use raidbuffs much better than an average raider.

[Kazimere]

He doesn't need a stronger argument, the other competing melees (mnk and reaper) both bring raid hp recovery options so they should be marginally lower in rDPS than the class that doesn't bring anything but damage. If SAM is being beaten in rDPS outside of the top percentiles it probably means it's bordering not worth bringing at all in those top percentiles as they will tend to use raidbuffs much better than an average raider.

If sub 90% isn't able to compete then that's an issue of playing better. Like I said before, the fact that Samurai was beating everyone in both brackets in StB was a problem, and it was broken. They are pushing the most DPS of any melee, as is indicated by their spot on the aDPS bracket. It's just not a blowout anymore.

If anything, mediocre Samurai can't get away with being mediocre anymore. This is a good thing.

[Ransu]

the fact that Samurai was beating everyone in both brackets in StB was a problem, and it was broken.

Fine, then give us a raid buff.

[tearagion]

If sub 90% isn't able to compete then that's an issue of playing better. Like I said before, the fact that Samurai was beating everyone in both brackets in StB was a problem, and it was broken. They are pushing the most DPS of any melee, as is indicated by their spot on the aDPS bracket. It's just not a blowout anymore.

If anything, mediocre Samurai can't get away with being mediocre anymore. This is a good thing.

Good job dodging the main point of the post. SAM rDPS should be higher than MNK and RPR, because those two offer more than damage to the party, and it's not. I don't care how unbalanced SAM was in SB because it isn't SB anymore. I did in fact stipulate "marginally".

[Kazimere]

Fine, then give us a raid buff.

Line up you burst with ours then. You fail to understand that Reaper's raid buff functions selfishly. It is not like the others.

[Maxilor]

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