The Problems With Ninja In Endwalker

[blue_skies]

The only (minor) issue I have with 6.0 NIN is that Raiju stacks fade if not used immediately. Otherwise, I really like all of the changes and the rotation feels great. Raiju isn't awkward at all - it fits nicely into the mid/tail end of TA, synergizes well with Bhavacakra and provides great utility on certain fights (Zodiark EX for example).

The complaint about Raiju being a gap closer are over-exaggerated.

[xou_]

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It's nice to see people are dropping NIN like crazy and moving to other jobs. Let's observe the Death of Ninja

[Kolsykol]

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It's nice to see people are dropping NIN like crazy and moving to other jobs. Let's observe the Death of Ninja

I wonder if the amount of Reapers will drop off hard at some point or if it will continue to be popular.
I really find myself getting bored when playing it for extended periods of time, it's too straight forward Enshroud isn't even rly that exciting to me.
The constant visual flash with the effects makes it feels too linear too imo, it's like a straight line visually instead of ups and downs of excitement.
Enshroud isn't even rly that different than your 1 2 3.

Maybe it's just because of how Gauge dependent it is, but it never really feels like I have a goal or am doing something which makes it feel monotonous to me.
On NIN you have clear goals and things to do and look forward to ( unless you hate the Raiju spam, which granted I actually don't ).

[VentVanitas]

I can perfectly understand not liking any form of spam on NIN, but I do appreciate that Raiju takes just a teensy bit more thought than Fell Cleave or Heat Blast. (I've admittedly come around to liking it) It's really only spammy in 2 minute windows and opener.

I guess the bigger problem with the job is too much work for very little damage and utility. Currently Trick Attack contributes less than MNK's Brotherhood. What an odd reversal of roles this has become, huh.

[Kolsykol]

I can perfectly understand not liking any form of spam on NIN, but I do appreciate that Raiju takes just a teensy bit more thought than Fell Cleave or Heat Blast. (I've admittedly come around to liking it) It's really only spammy in 2 minute windows and opener.

I guess the bigger problem with the job is too much work for very little damage and utility. Currently Trick Attack contributes less than MNK's Brotherhood. What an odd reversal of roles this has become, huh.

My main issue with Raiju really is that it doesn't all fit into Trick windows.
Having something else to do outside of Trick windows too at the end is cool I guess, but it kinda feels a bit weird I dunno, I am so used to fitting everything into a window.

[Equitable_Remedy]

My main issue with Raiju really is that it doesn't all fit into Trick windows.
Having something else to do outside of Trick windows too at the end is cool I guess, but it kinda feels a bit weird I dunno, I am so used to fitting everything into a window.

Go a year back on this forum, and you'll find that almost every thread about NIN includes at least one complaint about there not being enough to do outside of the Trick Attack Window.

The world turns.

[Kolsykol]

Go a year back on this forum, and you'll find that almost every thread about NIN includes at least one complaint about there not being enough to do outside of the Trick Attack Window.

The world turns.

I do think it was too repetitive outside of windows too.
But I associate Raiju with the window because it's so much of what you do in it.
You're in the process of spamming Raiju and then the time runs out and you're also saving your Mudras for it.

Bhavacakra are also part of the window but it's not as heavily associated with it.

[Kolsykol]

So based on what I understand from the patch notes.

Forked and Fleeting are now the same, one is just charge and the other is no charge ( charge as in '' rush to target '' ).
So if you didn't like the spammy nature there will now be less variety to it even ( in terms of animation ? ).

Phantom Kamaitachi also no longer requires a Bunshin stack and you don't lose it after you use up your Bunshin stacks you've got 45 sec to use it.

Hmm and that's it.
The potency buffs were nice at least I wonder if it's going to be enough tho.
Forked and Fleeting are now 560.

The thing that stands out to me however with Raiju is that it doesn't say if you only get one cast from Raiton now or if it's still two.
All it says is '' The status effect granted upon execution has been changed from "Forked Raiju Ready" to "Raiju Ready."
The status effect duration has been increased from 15 to 30 seconds. ''

That makes me think you can only use Raiju once instead of twice <_<.
Since both now use up '' Raiju Ready '' instead.
But we'll see I guess servers soon up again.

I didn't read anything about being able to use weapon skills with Raiju tho.
Only a potency increase and a separation of them so that one is now just a melee.
Which imo at least was a non-issue to begin with nothing will actually change unless I guess maybe the animation changed for the melee.

[AC9Breaker]

Just by reading this, I feel like this is a nerf to me. If we assume you do the TCJ combo and fit the two raiton casts into our trick attack window, We are losing 6 instances of instant aeolian edge or better damage. They turned the raiju combo into a one or other thing so now we only get 3 instances of 560 damage. Our combined 1200 + 1350 potency damage over the change this is now, 1680. Even just the single instance of raiton cast 560 versus 400+450 just seems like a decrease in damage output to me. Im not the brightest ninja out there tho, so maybe im not understanding something properly here or overlooking something? Anyway, I personally loved the raiju spam. Kinda reminded me of heatblast spam on mech. This is sad for me.

[SamSmoot]

So based on what I understand from the patch notes.

Forked and Fleeting are now the same, one is just charge and the other is no charge ( charge as in '' rush to target '' ).
So if you didn't like the spammy nature there will now be less variety to it even ( in terms of animation ? ).

Phantom Kamaitachi also no longer requires a Bunshin stack and you don't lose it after you use up your Bunshin stacks you've got 45 sec to use it.

So now, the Raijus require two buttons, but Bunshin/Phantom were reduced to one.

Just checked, we only get one Raiju per Raiton. Seems to me they should have doubled Raiju's potency to compensate for the loss of one.