Why NOT allow PvP's Combo-actions to be used in PvE?

[Moonlite]

For the people against. One thing to consider, lag. When you get lag and have moved onto the next skill but broken the combo somehow. With one button this doesn't happen. Also reduces button bloat for controllers. Some people make macros in or out of game as well. If it wouldn't be a huge work issue to implement. Since everything is a huge issue to do. The option for setting turning it on and off would be nice. Think of i as a QoL thing for other players you never even notice.

[EaMett]

The majority of others are already 1-1-1-1 with some sort of proc set so it's not really a fair argument against.

Yeah but the missing combo actions for those classes are replaced by proc actions. So at the end of the day you still have similar levels of button bloat and that doesn't solve anything for controller players. Combining combos without those extra skills however is.. in a way, something we already have with healers. And healers have been complaining about it for years.
I think the initial sentiment of wanting to avoid button bloat for controller players makes sense. But I also think people underestimate the difference between pressing 1-2-3 and pressing 1-1-1.

[Bobby66]

Just make it an option.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I vote that we get the mythical JP button in XI. With that one button we get the following:

Defeat any monster instantly.
Make any craft result in a HQ.
Make any monster drop every single potential item they can, and then some more items.

Also, make all dungeon bosses or ultimate targets sit there like a statue until we JP button it and get all the loot.

I think this is a great idea and would drive participation rates through the roof!! Our 1% clearance for ultimate and 8% for savage? Not anymore, more like 101% and 108%!!!

/s For anyone who needs it

My personal issue with it is that they have spent the last 6 years making the game simpler already and people keep asking for even more simplification on top of that. Where does it stop? Does it stop at the silly idea I just posted?

As someone that had the JP button it did not kill things instantly or freeze monsters or anything else you listed. It just made it easier to MPK RMT at HNMs if they managed to claim it >.>

[LisSquid]

Yeah but the missing combo actions for those classes are proc actions. So at the end of the day you still have similar levels of button bloat and that doesn't solve anything for controller players. Combining combos without those extra skills however is.. in a way, something we already have with healers. And healers have been complaining about it for years.
I think the initial sentiment of wanting to avoid button bloat for controller players makes sense. But I also think people underestimate the difference between pressing 1-2-3 and pressing 1-1-1.

I don't think the PVE combo action would take procs into it (at least not from what I read), but specifically the abilities that are gcd and read in 1-2-3 (1,2,3 being placeholders for any strict combination of buttons in the rotation). So jobs like Dancer and Bard would play exactly the same as before with this system.

[EaMett]

I don't think the PVE combo action would take procs into it (at least not from what I read), but specifically the abilities that are gcd and read in 1-2-3 (1,2,3 being placeholders for any strict combination of buttons in the rotation). So jobs like Dancer and Bard would play exactly the same as before with this system.

My point was that saying that a combined combo would work because proc classes technically have 1-1-1 gameplay wasn't a fair comparison.
True 1-1-1 gameplay like what you'd expect from a combined combo action does exist in some classes and the players maining those have only had complaints about it since the beginning.

[SherlottaEryut]

It’s possible if you’re on PC, just do research. I dare to say this is the thing what’s gaining this game a few 100k more continuing.

Sorry, but I’m curious, can anyone inform me on FFXIV’s policy on plug-ins? Not saying I’m going to do it *ESPECIALLY* if it’s going to put my account at risk, but is this an absolute no-go?

Someone prior said even a DPS meter is a ‘gray area’ but I’m finding so many mixed messages online. - just to clarify I hate DPS meters I think they’re unnecessary.

[LisSquid]

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Ahh I get you now, apologies! My comparison was mostly just that saying jobs with 1-2-3 rotations are only doing 1-2-3 rotation when there's a lot more to it. Weaves and windows to prep, cds to align. Only job of the kind I play like that currently is Reaper, which launched with its complete kit. So it feels really good to use: HOWEVER I can already see how in one expansion or more this tight kit can feel stagnant. Instead of being able to give us more skills that interact in impactful ways, they have to contest with the lvl 90 loadout. Which ends in maybe 1 2min cd and skill improvements.

[Rolder50]

Sorry, but I’m curious, can anyone inform me on FFXIV’s policy on plug-ins? Not saying I’m going to do it *ESPECIALLY* if it’s going to put my account at risk, but is this an absolute no-go?

Someone prior said even a DPS meter is a ‘gray area’ but I’m finding so many mixed messages online. - just to clarify I hate DPS meters I think they’re unnecessary.

It's very much gray area. It's against the TOS but I have not heard of anyone getting banned for using it.

[Katie_Kitty]

Feel good about myself? Please, don't patronize me.

What you consider disatachment, I consider dull. I don't want actions to feel redundant in-game, otherwise why have different actions at all? Why have combos to begin with? Just spam one button to win.
Also what's with all this talk about "1-2-3 is not hard why do you care?". Exactly, but I'm not the one wanting to make it even more effortless. If anything, I should be the one saying this to you.

And, again, nobody is saying you need to be forced to use it if you don't want to. You can keep the 1/2/3 combos you love so much, but for those of us who find them pointless it would be nice to have the option of using the PvP buttons.