Why NOT allow PvP's Combo-actions to be used in PvE?

[Rongway]

The PvP system uses simplified combos because they want the match-determining factor of PvP to be strategy rather than rotation.
The roleplay battles use simplified combos because you can't expect the average player to know how to play all twenty jobs just so they can play a one-off story battle well.

Outside of PvP and outside of roleplay battles, you have the leisure of working out a control scheme and hotbar layout that let you execute your job's rotation well and there need to be some error points somewhere. "But it's not hard to hit 1 2 3." Yeah well the point is you can do it wrong, and some people will.

[Kansene]

Screw it, lets just turn the game into an auto combat mobile game.
You press one button and it plays itself.

The literal only difference on the jobs whose combos are inflexible would be that instead of pressing 123 you'd be pressing 111.
The same amount of button presses. The same result.
You just use your index finger 3 times instead of your index, middle and ring finger 1 time.

2 more spaces freed up on your action bars, with virtually zero impact on gameplay seems like a win to me. They already did it with GNB's Gnashing Fang combo, and life is sweeter for it.

[LisSquid]

More button spots for more weaves and cds? I'm into it. The difference between good play and bad isn't how well you hit 1-2-3, but how well you can use 1-4-2-5-3-6 (or whatever weave is available to you for the window, without gcd clipping ofc). This would be just as precise with using a pvp combo chain, but probably force you to be more precise. Easier to clip if you're not moving your hand around. I'm thunking about it.

[Jirah]

This would flat out wouldn’t work in most kits, for DPS only RPR and MCH have a bare bones 1-2-3 where this makes sense

PVP is what it is because they are minimized versions of the initial kit due to the more frantic gameplay. Asking for the same for PVE is asking for the kits to be butchered

[lezard21]

You are going to have to have different buttons for different combos. Just off the top of my head, SAM and MNK both have their ST combo start with same action, but have two different rotations.

Aion did this like a decade and a half ago. It's not hard, I'm sure smol NFT indie company here can do it.

[Katie_Kitty]

It has nothing to do with being hard, it's about you being in control of your char's actions. I don't want pressing 111111111 to be the most efficient way to play and basically have the game play itself for me without even having to pay attention to what I'm doing. Healer forums is full of people tired of pressing one button all the time, I suggest you take a look and see what a horrible idea this is.

Nobody's saying you should be *forced* to use it. If it makes you feel good about yourself to press 1/2/3 for whatever reason then nobody wants to take that away from you. What we're saying is it would be nice for people who have no particular attachment to 1/2/3 combos to be able to condense them into one button.

buttons = skills

learn to read

Shots fired!!

[Jirah]

Nobody's saying you should be *forced* to use it. If it makes you feel good about yourself to press 1/2/3 for whatever reason then nobody wants to take that away from you. What we're saying is it would be nice for people who have no particular attachment to 1/2/3 combos to be able to condense them into one button.




Shots fired!!

Forgetting the fact only tanks and like 1/2 DPS really have a 1/2/3

[LisSquid]

Forgetting the fact only tanks and like 1/2 DPS really have a 1/2/3

The majority of others are already 1-1-1-1 with some sort of proc set so it's not really a fair argument against.

[lezard21]

I much rather they turn combos into a 1 key press and every job gets new oGCD skills next expansion, than the current practice of just upgrading old skills because they want to avoid keybind bloat.

[Lilyth]

Nobody's saying you should be *forced* to use it. If it makes you feel good about yourself to press 1/2/3 for whatever reason then nobody wants to take that away from you. What we're saying is it would be nice for people who have no particular attachment to 1/2/3 combos to be able to condense them into one button.

Feel good about myself? Please, don't patronize me.

What you consider disatachment, I consider dull. I don't want actions to feel redundant in-game, otherwise why have different actions at all? Why have combos to begin with? Just spam one button to win.
Also what's with all this talk about "1-2-3 is not hard why do you care?". Exactly, but I'm not the one wanting to make it even more effortless. If anything, I should be the one saying this to you.