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    LisSquid's Avatar
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    Mother Kos
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    Hyperion
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Garnetiferous View Post
    It should be painfully obvious that many people in this thread don't raid and have no idea what it's like.
    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    It’s just hardcore casuals being hardcore casuals. I don’t bother trying to understand their logic at this point.
    The belief has to come from somewhere. Among people who are die-hard "I REFUSE TO EVER ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM THE PROBLEM" there's got to be some people just swept up into it. Sometimes just talking it out can bring out some fallacies in the argument where middle ground can be reached.
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    Miawkwa Fletcher
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    The belief has to come from somewhere. Among people who are die-hard "I REFUSE TO EVER ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM THE PROBLEM" there's got to be some people just swept up into it. Sometimes just talking it out can bring out some fallacies in the argument where middle ground can be reached.
    It’s hard to try to sympathize. But I suppose it’s because I feel like a fair share of them are quick to demonize us.

    Casuals frequently utilize mods that improve the games aesthetics. Clothing and hair add-ons are popularized and publicly advertised. If you look at the ‘show off your -‘ threads a fair share of those screenshots are obviously augmented. They use Discord and chat with their friends while playing on third party apps. And no one really says anything.

    Yet when we bring up our own third party tool for the purpose of improving our own gameplay experience its problematic.
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    Cecille Williams
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    The belief has to come from somewhere. Among people who are die-hard "I REFUSE TO EVER ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM THE PROBLEM" there's got to be some people just swept up into it. Sometimes just talking it out can bring out some fallacies in the argument where middle ground can be reached.
    I think it's mainly that raiders have a reputation for being elitist and using a program that against ToS to recruit for a static even if the mods of the game are clearly turning a blind eye to raiders that are not harassing others using it fits right in with the narrative. Others are just straight up fabricating lies, like earlier in the thread someone claimed that early patches of this game had fights with hard enrages and yet we had no parsers and if that person had actually been a raider back then they'd know that there were actually multiple different parsing programs.
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